[Freddy]

But, allowing the performance of the plane to vary from it's actual values by 40% is NOT one of them

Sometimes it s 35 % , another 25 % and now 40 % ... !

Ace of Aces , perhaps you have some good ideas , and some knowledge about curves , but when you talk with someone it seems to be always a fight !

For this reason , from this moment , I shall never answer you ...

A lot of people ask you to stop but you continue and you follow only your idea ... It would be better too for you to learn how to make a mod for this simulator and to do something by yourself ....

But all this was already said ....

You are free to make all the tests you want , and to find some day 25% , another day 10 % , or perhaps 100 % , I don t care , I know how to make my own test , thanks and bye ! ... :wink:

[Spectre15]

OWNED................

[GaryR]

OWNED................

Let's hope so..

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Sometimes it s 35 % , another 25 % and now 40 % ... !

And all are more than 5% to 10% error, which is the standard for most flight sims. Heck even some of the old MS CFS sims claimed a 1% error in performance numbers.

Ace of Aces , perhaps you have some good ideas , and some knowledge about curves ,

Perhaps? I think the testing I have done thus far proves I have good ideas and knowledge about curves.

but when you talk with someone it seems to be always a fight !

Really? Yet it was YOU who resorted to calling me names when I questioned the accuracy of your F86 simulation. After you ask people to test the accuracy of your F86 simulation. So if anyone here is argumentative it is you. The only way someone could even begin to paint me as argumentative is if the consider me not agreeing with some of your assessments and statements as arguing with you, which it is not, it is simply me disagree with you.

For this reason , from this moment , I shall never answer you ...

You say that as if I care?

Know this, I really don't care if you reply, in that I really don't like it when people resort to calling me names.

All I really care about is that my test results caused you to take a second look at your simulation of the F86, at which point you realized I was correct about the bug in ROC, which lead you to fix it.

That is all that maters to me, how much you like me or dislike me is irrelevant to me.

A lot of people ask you to stop but you continue and you follow only your idea ...

You can spin it anyway you like, if it helps you to get to sleep at night thinking you never resorted to calling me names, fine! What ever works for you! Just know that it does not make it true!

It would be better too for you to learn how to make a mod for this simulator and to do something by yourself ....

It would be better if you didn't take all this so personal. My god, you make a bold statement that your F86 is more realistic than anyone else and even go as far as to ask people to test it, and than you get mad at the people who actually take the time to test it and find an error!

But all this was already said ....

Again, if believing that helps you sleep at night, so be it. You can say it a thousand times if you like! Just know it does not make it fact.

You are free to make all the tests you want ,

I knew that, I even told you that I don't need your permission to test anything.

and to find some day 25% , another day 10 % , or perhaps 100 % , I don t care , I know how to make my own test , thanks and bye ! ... :wink:

Yes and how much you know about making it shows in how you claimed your F86 was more realistic than the 'others' (read PeterDs).

When in fact it contains a bug/error that results in a 35% error in the ROC!

At least now you know now that I showed/proved it to you!

Thus, I question your ability to make your own test.

Like I said early on.

Two guys flying around on line is not how you test the performance of a plane, in that kind of testing tells you more about the relative luck/skill of the pilots than how realistic the FM is.

Thus you might want to re-think that test method of yours, consider trading it in for a more formal and real world approach.

Just a thought!

[FZ]

"Two guys flying around on line is not how you test the performance of a plane"


... ACE-OF-ACES, you might be smart at curves but certainly not at counting 335th squad members at Histomod !!

They are 15, that's more than a 700% error percentage !! :roll:

[aymi]

@ aces O fAces
Yes we are 15

15 boys in a realist game , but.... ~~ 40.000 boys in a arcade game.

15 is a good start 8)
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[Freddy]

you claimed your F86 was more realistic than the 'others' (read PeterDs).

No chance , my FM was made before Peter d's update of the F-86 ... And it seems the fm coming with his 3D model update is not from him but from LT Wolf ? Yes ..No ? ...
This is exactly my words to LT Wolf about that :

But you have done too a very good job , I don t want to say the mine is better , the best in my opinion is to let the choice to the players ...

Nowhere I ve said my fm was better than the "others" .... It s not FINISHED !!!!
From the begining the same thing : NOT FINISHED !!! WORK IN PROGRESS !!!!!

All that becomes really painful...
Nobody to stop this guy ?

The update will come at the end of the week , no chance for Ass Of Asses , all the tests to be redone , and specialy the ROC !!!!

[calhanboy]

@ aces O fAces
Yes we are 15

15 boys in a realist game , but.... ~~ 40.000 boys in a arcade game.

15 is a good start 8)
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Surely a good start to insult 40000 guys in same time....

The update will come at the end of the week , no chance for Ass Of Asses , all the tests to be redone , and specialy the ROC !!!!

This one is not bad too...

[Freddy]

Just to say :

calhanboy ... this is Josse from C6 .... And he s not really a friend of mine ....

Hey , Josse , when you want to come somewhere , come with your REAL NAME !!!!

I m not very amazed to see you here , but not necessary to talk again about the F-51 , :wink: , it s the same , wait for the update !!!!

[richy]

Get laid ace of aces, seriously, go out a bit and find a kind woman...
To join what FZ said, it's true, we're not less than two testing every update Freddy sorts out.

Follow my advice pal, get OUT (in the two senses know what I mean? :lol

P.S.: Have your wrong curves burnt your eyes and made you hideous?? Oh and please don't quote me, I get ill-at-ease rapidly :oops: but maybe I'm asking the moon? :? :?

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

GENTS, keep it civil!

If you start posting abusive messages to ACES, I'll lock the topic.

If calhanboy is Josse, ahoy there mate -- he's welcome to use whatever nickname he wants. Please keep it civil, and don't let it degenerate into an argument -- the lord knows it was a pain in the arse dealing with the last one.

[Freddy]

P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole , I understand , but who is arguing in this thread from the beginning ?

There is a limit to my patience ...

It s just a thread about a mod for Corea , if you don t like it don t use it !

This work is not finished , and all the space is taken with the ridiculous curves from Ass of Asses , and his fight against this mod .... If he prefers the fm from LT Wolf , no problem for me , he just have to get it , and go away from this thread !

Or if he wants to work with LT Wolf , he have to keep his curves for him .... But if he just want to prove my FM are wrong , and it s the case here , he have to wait before this mod to be finished !!!!

The first part of my work was on the f-86Cockpit and a beta cockpit for the mig15 , the second part ( the next ) wil be to improve the FM , the last will be to finish the cockpits ...

About Josse , this guy comes here with a false name just to add his hands in the fight !!! Hey Josse , if you have some guts , tell us who you are .... You know what they say : no guts , no glory !!!

He is french , like me , but on C6 it s not possible now to have a talk , so he comes everywhere with his bad english ( the mine is not good too ) to fight with me ...

Perhaps a new squad will be created with Ass of Asses as leader , and Calhanboy as first leutenant !!! It will be funny !

For Josse : parle en francais tete de noeud , ca sonnera mieux !!!!

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

Yes, I ken that too. But please cease insulting Ace of Aces, ok? it's not necessary.

Aces: please cease posting your fm critiques in this thread. We've heard your case, but the input is no longer appreciated by the modding team. As You're not involved with making this mod, please gracefully bow out.

As for Josse: he came across as joking, but anyway -- calhanboy, please don't add to this argument further.

Freddy: he is within his rights to use any name he wants on this site (so long as it's not rude or offensive!). PLease leave him be.

Gents, let's steer this thread back on topic now.

Regards,
Mog

[European Snake]

On a lighter note, Freddy, when can we expect an update?

[FZ]

@ European Snake: you must have missed it, further up that very page, Freddy wrote :

"The update will come at the end of the week"