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- kosmev99 - 09.01.2008

SG2_Wasy Wrote:Ok, if you want make protection, use tools, learn Java and make it, all simple. But i think it's don't good idea, ask it there. And don't try start another flame war.

No it's not that simple. ;)
And even if I does, how can I ensure that everybody will use my protection?! :)
If you want to cheat you will simply not install it.
Such protection must be inside each IL2 install.
One way is to be made by Maddox of course, but they obviously don't intend to support IL-2 any more.
The only other way is to include it inside the MOD-tools. If you need MODs, you need the MODding tools. So it's up to QTim ....


- SG2_Wasy - 09.01.2008

kosmev99 Wrote:
SG2_Wasy Wrote:Ok, if you want make protection, use tools, learn Java and make it, all simple. But i think it's don't good idea, ask it there. And don't try start another flame war.

No it's not that simple. Wink
And even if I does, how can I ensure that everybody will use my protection?! Smile
If you want to cheat you will simply not install it.
Such protection must be inside each IL2 install.
One way is to be made by Maddox of course, but they obviously don't intend to support IL-2 any more.
The only other way is to include it inside the MOD-tools. If you need MODs, you need the MODding tools. So it's up to QTim ....
I think QTim don't will be make it. It's only my opinion, if i was on QTim's place, i don't make such things. Why? It's not interest for me.
P.S. damn, its again and again, may be they will stop talk about "someone make it" and start make something..... If you realy want it make, i confident you make it or find "someone" who make it. But Now it's only talk, talk and talk again. Talk already six mounth and no result.


- Fisneaky - 09.01.2008

Luckily I'm in a squad where there is trust , honour and respect, and in my experience the majority of the community also holds fast to those ideals.



I can't say that nobody cheats, but I can say that cheats are nobodies.
In the end most cheats will get caught out by their own pride.


- kosmev99 - 09.01.2008

Fisneaky Wrote:Luckily I'm in a squad where there is trust , honour and respect, and in my experience the majority of the community also holds fast to those ideals.



I can't say that nobody cheats, but I can say that cheats are nobodies.
In the end most cheats will get caught out by their own pride.

Yep, you are correct. But a flying a La-7 in an early war server, with modded guns and dropping 5000kg boms can ruin the game of all players there...


- Uther - 09.01.2008

kosmev99 Wrote:
Fisneaky Wrote:Luckily I'm in a squad where there is trust , honour and respect, and in my experience the majority of the community also holds fast to those ideals.



I can't say that nobody cheats, but I can say that cheats are nobodies.
In the end most cheats will get caught out by their own pride.

Yep, you are correct. But a flying a La-7 in an early war server, with modded guns and dropping 5000kg boms can ruin the game of all players there...

And you have personally seen this where?
Your thread strikes me as just being another attempt to start a flamewar,as has happened on the other forums.


- SG2_Wasy - 09.01.2008

kosmev99 Wrote:
Fisneaky Wrote:Luckily I'm in a squad where there is trust , honour and respect, and in my experience the majority of the community also holds fast to those ideals.



I can't say that nobody cheats, but I can say that cheats are nobodies.
In the end most cheats will get caught out by their own pride.

Yep, you are correct. But a flying a La-7 in an early war server, with modded guns and dropping 5000kg boms can ruin the game of all players there...
I agree about La7 on early war server, but modded guns and 5000kg bombs with CRT=2 will be have some problems..


- Fisneaky - 09.01.2008

kosmev99 Wrote:Yep, you are correct. But a flying a La-7 in an early war server, with modded guns and dropping 5000kg boms can ruin the game of all players there...

Quite simply , if a planes not on a servers list, you shouldn't be able to fly it!

Loadout can be locked by server too.


- Skunkmeister - 09.01.2008

Shit man...and I actually vouched for you.

Stop being so freaking paranoid. So far NO mods available here have changed any FM, DM or loadouts to any planes. So far all that has been done is add cockpits to planes that didnt have any. So if those particular aircraft arent available in the server, whats the big whoop?

If you see cheating on a server, report it to the admins, they will investigate, ban him and then can post his info here in the blacklist. There is no need to live a constant state of fear of something that is so benign.


- SG2_Wasy - 09.01.2008

Fisneaky Wrote:
kosmev99 Wrote:Yep, you are correct. But a flying a La-7 in an early war server, with modded guns and dropping 5000kg boms can ruin the game of all players there...

Quite simply , if a planes not on a servers list, you shouldn't be able to fly it!

Loadout can be locked by server too.
No, have another way, but it will be fast denied by admins, becouse others will be see you La7 too.

May be close topic?


- Fisneaky - 09.01.2008

SG2_Wasy Wrote:May be close topic?

Good idea :wink:


- kosmev99 - 09.01.2008

Well.. Looks like some folks even don't believe in cheats!!!
Ok.. whoever is the forum moderator.
Can I ask you, sir?
Would you allow me to post a link to a single file which will turn I-153 into an UFO.
or please tell what plane to change into an UFO (presumably one which is not so often used online... Yak-7A or P-11 ?)

This way everybody will see how easy it is to ruin the game! He will be able to enter online server and test it himself.

If you don't allow me I would conclude that you agree with me that this is very easy and is not a matter for discussion.


- SG2_Wasy - 09.01.2008

kosmev99 Wrote:Well.. Looks like some folks even don't believe in cheats!!!
Ok.. whoever is the forum moderator.
Can I ask you, sir?
Would you allow me to post a link to a single file which will turn I-153 into an UFO.
or please tell what plane to change into an UFO (presumably one which is not so often used online... Yak-7A or P-11 ?)

This way everybody will see how easy it is to ruin the game! He will be able to enter online server and test it himself.

If you don't allow me I would conclude that you agree with me that this is very easy and is not a matter for discussion.
Ok, you UFO I-153 will be work on server with CRT=2 check? If yes, then we find server and you give me look on this.


- CKY_86 - 09.01.2008

kosmev99 Wrote:Well.. Looks like some folks even don't believe in cheats!!!
Ok.. whoever is the forum moderator.
Can I ask you, sir?
Would you allow me to post a link to a single file which will turn I-153 into an UFO.
or please tell what plane to change into an UFO (presumably one which is not so often used online... Yak-7A or P-11 ?)

This way everybody will see how easy it is to ruin the game! He will be able to enter online server and test it himself.

If you don't allow me I would conclude that you agree with me that this is very easy and is not a matter for discussion.

Man I love your mentality.

What your basically saying, it seems to me anyway, is ''produce an anti-cheat mod or i'll make UFO planes'' :lol:

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- RAF_OldBuzzard - 09.01.2008

Why do some people seem to think that the mods are going to turn everyone into cheaters online? This thought process reminds me of the old movie "Reefer Madness", where one hit of pot turned you into an ax murderer. :roll:

Those that would use the mod to cheat online are already cheating in other ways now. The mod isn't going to unleash a new wave of cheating online, and isn't going to 'destroy the game'.

It's actually a bit ironic that the only folks that we have seen making/using modded FM/DMs online are the 'anti-cheat people' themselves.

I would welcome a 'mod to the mod' that would allow a server to allow or disallow the mod. At least that would stop the constant braying from a few jackasses that don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.


- kosmev99 - 09.01.2008

SG2_Wasy Wrote:Ok, you UFO I-153 will be work on server with CRT=2 check? If yes, then we find server and you give me look on this.

No it won't work... fortunately
But CRT=2 is not a cure. It forces the clients to use the same OS as the server! This will restrict the numbers of players who can play together.
If only somebody could explain me how to get round this....