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- spud - 09.04.2008
Zorin Wrote:spud Wrote:It's not there. (google earth).
That is what I implied, but you can triangulate the area that it was situated by checking the other places mentioned in the mission description.
Sorry, didn't mean to seem short.
Rekata Bay is across the Slot, though, so the triangulation is something like 40,000km^2.
Big map.
tater
Status - FA_Cheech - 10.04.2008
Just wanted to stop by and provide a status.
As I stated earlier, everything on The Slot is at 99.44 percent complete, and we are now going through all versions of the map to make sure there are no problems and haven't missed anything (extra objects left under trees, over water, etc.)
While playtesting missions we have run into a snag concerning airfield textures.
Many of the airfields in the Solomons used metal plates, known as Marston/Marsden matting, to surface runways and taxiways. This material frequently covers high traffic areas, and has crushed coral borders. In order to capture this look, we used Pacific Sand Plate - "Runway" plates as an underlayment for the PCP plates (1C;Maddox name for Marston matt). Unfortunately, these two textures compete for who ends up on top, when viewed from different angles in the FMB. You can get it perfect in the map editor version of the FMB, by manipulating the texture plates, only to find the wrong texture on top (popping) when you go to the default FMB. We originally decided to use Pacific Sand "Runway" plates for the underlayment becuse it required fewer objects (smaller actors.static, shorter load times, and fewer memory related FMB crashes).
We have tried several options to get around the problem, to no avail, so we are now forced to redo all the airfields that had Marston matt (Henderson, Fighter One, Fighter Two, Koli, Carney, and Ballale), using Pacific Sand Plate - "Parking Side" textures, butted-up against the sides of the PCP plate sections. Other than the time required to make the change, it also adds to trhe size of the actors.static. Becasue we seperated the actors.static objects into two seperate files (airfields, everything else), this will cause no problems during construction, but will add a few seconds to load time.
Bottom Line - more work for the team, delayed release (estimate 1-3 weeks, depending on real-world work schedules, and how much shopping money we are willing to use to bribe wives/girlfriends) , slightly longer load times (load times for all versions will still be far less than load times for larger default maps, like Crimea and Slovakia).
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but we are learning as we go.
- saunders1953 - 10.04.2008
Okay, you're fired!
Really, thanks for the update Cheech. I think you and the Pacific Team have already surpassed Oleg's total IL2 update count for the last 3 years combined! I can wait. Not.
- Pellaeon - 10.04.2008
Really appreciate the update. Glad to hear you're on the case and willing to put more time into the project.
We'll be waiting patiently; or at least I'll be trying. :wink:
- Sulla - 10.04.2008
Thank you Cheech.
et al
- VT-51_Razor - 10.04.2008
No news is bad news. This update is great to hear. Thanks for all the hard work you guys are putting into this.
- Former_Older - 10.04.2008
Razor-
The last update was only a matter of days ago, on Monday by my recollection. I know we're all impatient...but I suggest that we not start to unrealistically expect updates every two days because not getting 48 hour updates is "bad news"
I know your post is supportive and positive, but the Pacific team is doing a good job of keeping us updated- which is not something they are obligated to do- with news when there is news to tell. They aren't a company, they are a bunch of enthusiasts, and in my opinion we should not put these expectations of more frequent updates on them
Again, I know your post was 100% in support of the Pacific team.
- Former_Older - 10.04.2008
Oh- Cheech-
I noticed a slight error on "Slot1". I am busy today and probably tomorrow but I can make the correct file available to the Team. I accidentally assigned the player to the wrong VMF- this can even be changed by someone on the Team who has a basic understanding of the FMB, it just requires all USMC units to be changed to the VMF I claim in the description- two minute job, tops.
- Dixiecapt - 10.04.2008
Former_Older Wrote:Razor-
The last update was only a matter of days ago, on Monday by my recollection. I know we're all impatient...but I suggest that we not start to unrealistically expect updates every two days because not getting 48 hour updates is "bad news"
I know your post is supportive and positive, but the Pacific team is doing a good job of keeping us updated- which is not something they are obligated to do- with news when there is news to tell. They aren't a company, they are a bunch of enthusiasts, and in my opinion we should not put these expectations of more frequent updates on them
Again, I know your post was 100% in support of the Pacific team.
No new is bad news is a pretty popular saying.....
No Offense But I THINK he was trying to say "Glad to hear from you"
But then again it's neither for you, nor I to say since it was not directed at us.
P.S. Looking forward to what your putting together with the PT Crew!
(Edited)
- fly_zo - 10.04.2008
lets not take this any further , gents ..... pretty please with cherry on top
regards,
Z
- Dixiecapt - 10.04.2008
take what any futher :wink: done n' done
- Former_Older - 10.04.2008
??? :?:
Fly_zo, please check PMs
- Murph - 10.04.2008
I don't know if this information would be any use to you;
My dad was a gunners mate and served as ground crew on Espiritu Santo. I once asked him about the marsden matting. He told me that because of the holes in the matting, the dirt and dust very quickly worked their way up and made it appear indistinguishable from the surrounding dirt or coral. Not like the weird black stuff we have in the game's current maps.
- fly_zo - 10.04.2008
Dixiecapt Wrote:take what any futher :wink: done n' done
i believe i was clear enough .... that discussion is getting OT
so it ends here !
@Chuck : replied
regards,
Z
- FA_Cheech - 11.04.2008
Murph Wrote:I don't know if this information would be any use to you;
My dad was a gunners mate and served as ground crew on Espiritu Santo. I once asked him about the marsden matting. He told me that because of the holes in the matting, the dirt and dust very quickly worked their way up and made it appear indistinguishable from the surrounding dirt or coral. Not like the weird black stuff we have in the game's current maps.
Thanks Murph, that information corroborates what we have seen in period photos.
FA_Monguse has provided the community with a custom texture for the marsden matting to mirror that look. Will provide to Fly_zo tonight for check-out and posting.