Total Confusion...
#1

I re-installed 1946. Than patch 4.09b and after that patch 4.09 final. But when i want to play 1946 i get a CTD.... What did i do wrong? :???:

Now i want to download HSFX 4.0... Torrent... I don't like torrents, but what the heck i want HSFX! Links @ 242 don't work... WTF! Confusedhock:

Why is it so hard to make an install guide for dummy's (like me ) which tell's me and other dummy's what to do, step by step and containing working links... :roll:

So if there is a genius out there who can help me, and fellow dummies, please shine your light on me and help me out!

Many, many thanks in advance! (also many thanks in advance by my wife, children and the cat Fritz... ) 8)

EDIT:

I uninstalled 1946...
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#2

Sounds like you went wrong at 4.09b...you don't need that. You need a fresh 4.07m, patched up to 4.08m, up to 4.09m (make a copy of your main il2 folder now and save it somewhere incase you need it...you don't want to have to go through the last few steps all over again at some stage), you should then have a fresh 4.09m that you can add either UP2.0 (Full version) or HSFX4.0 & HSFX4.1 to.

HSFX torrent thingys seem ok to me, have you used torrents before? Are you using utorrent?
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#3

Thanks for the reply nzwilliam! What's the difference between UltraPack 2.0 and HSFX4.x ? If i'am correct there are two different ways to install mods: UP and HSFX? What happend to UI? I know this all sounds stupid but i didn't play 1946 for a long time...

After installing from DVD (1946 ) i have to patch to 4.08 and after that patch to final 4.09 final and forget the Beta 4.09... Will give this a try...

The torrents @ 242 didn't work...
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#4

UI is outdated, as it is included in HSFX....and HSFX is included in UP2.0. So it's up to you which one you want to install. They both have the same things (UP2.0 might have a few extras). From what I understand, if you are going to play offline a lot, use UP. If you are going to be playing on the servers, use HSFX. I use UP2.0. But, it's up to you.
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#5

aviatorsneah Wrote:UI is outdated, as it is included in HSFX....and HSFX is included in UP2.0. So it's up to you which one you want to install. They both have the same things (UP2.0 might have a few extras). From what I understand, if you are going to play offline a lot, use UP. If you are going to be playing on the servers, use HSFX. I use UP2.0. But, it's up to you.
S~ I seem to see a lot of people say if you play online, us HSFX, However, to date, I have not had a problem playing online with UP 2.0. Is there a glitch I don't know about there Aviatorsneah?? Just curious
George
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#6

maybe you are right....i just thought there were some things in there that aren't "properly credited" and maybe some things that aren't "legal" to use online....like weapons changes and FM's being played with. But maybe I'm wrong. I was always just as confused with the differences as a lot of people. Just going by what people have told me. UP2.0 has more stuff in it, and as an offline player, I went with UP.
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#7

There's really nothing about UP or HSFX that makes one or the other more or less suitable for online or offline play. UP is more amenable to additional mods, since the HSFX installer actually DELETES your MODS and Files folders. That said, however, it is not a problem to put them back, if you know what you're doing.

Flying online is often more a matter of knowing what the server you fly on runs, and making sure you are compatible with that, particularly with respect to which Zuti DSMod is running, if any. Warbirds of Prey servers, for example, run UP 2.0, so if you fly on their servers, that's what you need.

As far as the flap about FM changes in UP, in the latest BugFix patch for UP 2.0, Hades has separated out the few planes which have altered FMs (which are not stock Oleg planes, BTW) so that users can select altered FM or not for those few planes.
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#8

No problem mate, I know the frustration patches etc. can cause.

Not really allot of difference between the two, their base is the same, and UP can be switched to HSFX standard to make it compatible online. I've got both at the moment, and I have noticed a couple of odd bugs with the UP, HSFX has a small fixer patch that adds and re-arranges a few files too, so both do have a couple of adjustments to be made in upcoming patches, but neither have anything particularly bad. If I were you I'd probably go for UP as it does have more aircraft at the moment and you can use the JSGME switcher to become compatible with all but the 4.08 servers (why anyone would stick with an obsolete patch I'll never know).

UP 2.0 (FULL DOWNLOAD) can be found here incase you decide to go down that road: http://ultrapack.il2war.com/index.php/topic,1155.0.html
You'll probably need to download a bug patch too to join UP2.0 CRT2 servers: http://ultrapack.il2war.com/index.php/topic,1536.0.html

What exactly are the torrents doing or not doing? You're aware you download the torrent file and then select that file using a torrent program like utorrent to actually download the patches themselves?
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#9

S~
I'm sorry fellas, but I can't really see that much of a difference in the FM's in question, if there even is any, You know how things get started in anything anymore, so, like Bulau said, they weren't stock to begin with. I just feel like that if I keep adding more and more mods, one day the universe will implode on us, or at least the ole computer, LOL
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