[Carnagexxx]

It seems that a lot of planes, like the Yak Series, Me 109, FW 190 ( mgs ) and other have no empty bullet ejection ?

Does this planes "store" the empty shells ??

Also I think the ejeceted 20mm Shells have to be bigger, the seemed like MG Catridges to me.


Is this able to create ?

[GentleKiller]

It seems that a lot of planes, like the Yak Series, Me 109, FW 190 ( mgs ) and other have no empty bullet ejection ?

Does this planes "store" the empty shells ??

Also I think the ejeceted 20mm Shells have to be bigger, the seemed like MG Catridges to me.


Is this able to create ?

yes some planes kept the cartriges because to keep the center of lift and gravity in a normal state.

[Brophmeister]

And it saved war materials!

[Carnagexxx]

Aha

could you give some examples ?

Is it realistic like it is in Il2 ?

[Brophmeister]

What, the keeping of the cartridges or the saving of the war materials?

[GentleKiller]

Aha

could you give some examples ?

Is it realistic like it is in Il2 ?

yse it is realistic like in IL2, for example, the P39 in real lige had no cartridge ejection of the 37mm, the same thing in the game, the FW190 later series, kept the cartriges so they could reuse them :wink:

[Carnagexxx]

Hmm, but what is with the size of the empty 20 mm shells ? They seemed to small to me

[GentleKiller]

Hmm, but what is with the size of the empty 20 mm shells ? They seemed to small to me

you are absolutely right!

[RAF_Magpie]

Aha

could you give some examples ?

Is it realistic like it is in Il2 ?

yse it is realistic like in IL2, for example, the P39 in real lige had no cartridge ejection of the 37mm, the same thing in the game, the FW190 later series, kept the cartriges so they could reuse them :wink:

The P-39 needed this to help prevent the wicked bad flat spin that they so love to go into. Bell discovered it was due to the change in CoG from expending the amunition...

It would be better to have a list of aircraft in game that do actually have eject ports in real life, but not modeled in game... then it might be possible to go from there...

[Carnagexxx]

Something new on that ?

In this Vid @ 3:56 you can also see that the lower gunner of the B17 had empty shells ejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuDf4eGl ... re=related

[reflected]

come on guys, it's about saving the environnement, and recycling :wink:

[Carnagexxx]

Hey, I want to see that empty bullets rain

[Low_Flyer]

That box under the nose of the Whirlwind is to keep spent cartridges in. :wink:

[Carnagexxx]

Yeah, but what is with the Me 109s ?

In EAW they had empty bullet shells coming out of them

And also the size of the 20 mm catridges has to be editet

[_Hans]

I seem to remember both the 109E's MG-FF's ejecting their spent cases (Nowhere to put them!) and the centerline MG-151's on the F/G series also ejecting their cases. The MG-17 and MG-131 cases may be a different story.

As for saving the cases to re use them... That all depends. Boxer primed brass can be inspected quickly and then reloaded entirely by machine. Berdan primed brass, which IIRC, was and is still most common in Europe, has to be de-primed by hand and then the anvil inspected. Those might not be economical to reload. Plus, if the cases are steel, they're really junk after they've been fired, and you'd only save them if you were especially desperate for materials.

So, these aircraft may have actually changed between dumping cases or saving them at different points in the war as the supply situation changed.