first off, if other sites create their own buttons file, does this mean that the AC installers are now redundant ?
will the buttons file from the sites sas/raf662 be released here ?
will the other sites buttons file contain all the FM's for planes released here as well as on other sites ?
will the new buttons file conflict with the one we already have in 3.8 AC installer ?
what happens if different sites make different planes but the buttons file is not updated with each other and the two ( or more) different sites lose track of what planes FM's have been added, surely this will cause game crashes/problems ?
Will there be posts made here with links to other sites re new planes etc ?
Is AAA breaking up or will it be used as a hub for other sites ?
hI,
In order to keep things simple & not lose out on the work that is being done by all in the community what i do is I have different modded copies of the game.
How things will develop in the future we do not know, but modders are doing their best to create new work & that is the main thing.
guys, please, this is important, i am just looking fo rthe answers to the questions i pose, preferably from an admin who knows the answers. :wink:
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I can say this the new AAA AC installer is on its way Monguse and others have been
Working hard on it and it will include many new things and is in the testing stage now,
Also the AAA buttons is a on line unified and as well can be used for off line.
Now for the BIG picture there is something in the works that will unify many of the
Different modding communities, am not at liberty to say what and who so please
Don
yeah, thanks for the heads up,
As for finding a site, i did, i found AAA and because of your dedication to realism, i have stuck like glue to it. even donated to it because of its rules and the want of keeping it up and running..................
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SAS~MOSCA Wrote:Saburo Sakai Wrote:yeah, thanks for the heads up,
As for finding a site, i did, i found AAA and because of your dedication to realism, i have stuck like glue to it. even donated to it because of its rules and the want of keeping it up and running..................
You wont find any answers to your question here.
@ Mosca, I answered him above and anyone can find any answers they so look for here.
Other then things that can lead to cheating in the on line game.
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I'm going to clear the air here. Just in case some are not up to the latest news.
Let's chat about the ac installer (actually known as the button files).
The button files actually contains all sorts of goodies that for a lack of a better word allows neat stuff like a flag for sliding canopies and fire extinguishers and other neat stuff. Now, this coupled with a whole lot more work gets you the user some really nice stuff.
Like ...
New planes in 1.2 that will be a surprise.
Now whey do we have issues with different buttons? Simple no one so far has merged all the buttons from all the sites. More importantly due to the fragmentation of the community no standards were set in place to allow for the merging. It's like the oxen before the cart, can't execute a plan without a plan.
To this we are all currently working towards that goal. We meaning many of the mod groups are getting together to work this issue out. To this extent, the AAA is working to itemize, document and build tools that would allow all the modding groups to co exists with one button files.
Unified installer 1.2 will contain most of the results from our standardization.
For instance, as I had noted before in another thread, the unified installer 1.2 will allow the end user (you) to select the sounds you want without having to have a special buttons file.
We are currently testing 1.2 to make sure all these goodies are thorougly tested before we launch. Similarly, when the unified installer does come out we will have by default a new ac installer.
Please be patient
If anyone has any specific question please feel free to ask and the moderators here will try their best to answer questions as best as we can.
well i had 7 specific questioms in the first post.
but one more to add is this, why is it that some planes have in accurate FM's and these i mean new slot. if there is a certain standard, then why is this not being met ?
i joined AAA in 2007 and had my doubts about "over the top" FM's and mr j said that they would not be overdone Ie, uber planes and such. but i see all to many times that some new planes are , lets say, slightly over done and others slightly under done.
Q: If other sites create their own buttons file, does this mean that the AC installers are now redundant ?
A: The ac installers will still continue but will not have a specific flavor.
Q: will the buttons file from the sites sas/raf662 be released here ?
A: I really don't know how to answer this question. For instance there are specific button files for Ultrapack, SEOW, C6, AAA, RAF662, SAS and every other modding sites out there. I seriously doubt posting button files from every site will be a positive move. The only solution as I had mentioned is one unified button files.
Q: Will the other sites buttons file contain all the FM's for planes released here as well as on other sites ?
A: Doubtful. As an example, the B25 strafers that are not out at this time. Each of those have their own FM with the exception of the B25J15. I would bet that as soon as those aircraft are available their FM will be tweaked even though I spent allot of time documenting them. It's like salt at a dining table, the user now has the ability to add as much salt as they choose. The only option we all have standardization.
Q: Will the new buttons file conflict with the one we already have in 3.8 AC installer ?
A: No it blends perfectly. I have the 1.2 installed as well as 5 other guys that are in 1.2 Pre Alpha testing and we have not had one negative issue.
Q: What happens if different sites make different planes but the buttons file is not updated with each other and the two ( or more) different sites lose track of what planes FM's have been added, surely this will cause game crashes/problems ?
A: The only positive on the ac installer (new button files) is that all the aircraft and engines and sounds and wave files must be present. Having the data in the button files and the aircraft not loaded is not an issue. However, the issue comes when you add an aircraft to your mod that is not referenced in the button files. That's when bad things happen, like aircraft exploding (no engine); no sounds (missing prs files for new engines), the game wont load ... and the list goes on.
Again, the main thing is Standardization.
Q: Will there be posts made here with links to other sites re new planes etc ?
A: Yes we can post to other sites.
Q: Is AAA breaking up or will it be used as a hub for other sites ?
A: The AAA is not breaking up, many of us are working hard for the entire community not just AAA. Our focus is global rather than local.
Q: Why is it that some planes have in accurate FM's and these i mean new slot. if there is a certain standard, then why is this not being met ?
I joined AAA in 2007 and had my doubts about "over the top" FM's and mr j said that they would not be overdone ie, uber planes and such. But I see all to many times that some new planes are , let's say, slightly over done and others slightly under done.
A: The main reason for this issue is lack of standardization. Meaning no specific document itemizing the metrix to be used during testing. As an example, we have a standard atmosphere map developed by 2Bits which we are using for all flight testing. We are focusing on the new aircraft in 1.2 to be included to have a thorough test with the results published and allow the end user to examine and decide weather to use them or not.
Other aircraft (new slot aircraft) in the unified mod will be tested as time allows.
We must all remember one thing, many people try their best to get it right but without one standard, things may not work out as planned.
Flight performance testing as noted above:
As an example, we have a standard atmosphere map developed by 2Bits which we are using for all flight testing. We are focusing on the new aircraft in 1.2 to be included to have a thorough test with the results published and allow the end user to examine and decide weather to use them or not.
Map making:
Spawn washes meaning a B24 is placed on the user point to verify all AI and human players do not collide with objects or each other.
Working with other sites as noted above:
To this we are all currently working towards that goal. We meaning many of the mod groups are getting together to work this issue out. To this extent, the AAA is working to itemize, document and build tools that would allow all the modding groups to co exists with one button files.
i hope we are wrong though then it would ruin my weekend and the next 60 or so to come.
you all had me worried there for a sec.