[walter_solito]

asheshouse is an RN specialist

Not really. After all I've only done one ship so far.
--- but I am concentrating on ships for the Mediterranean, which tends to rule out the IJN.

I'm quite tempted by some of the Italian Navy warships though.

It is a great pity that the game does not have any USN nor IJN battleships.
Pacific Fighters was a huge disappointment due to the limited choice of warships.

Dear mate!

I'm a profane in modding so I apologize for my ignorance and for bother you wiyh my topic!

Reading your post at goshikisen I have got an idea to couple with the two things: your interest in a new carrier for RN and the desire for new IJN ships!

In the realization of new carrier for RN that you think to realize in the future you need to do anyway some experiments with them so , if in the meantime of the experimetation , you'll do other 4 new slot for ship you can do 4 great needed ship for IJN and Pacific Theatre lovers and for a 'what if' scenarios between IJN and RN too:

(first new ship) - The change of the side from starbord to port of the island of the Akagi allow to realize the Kaga frankenship;

(second new ship) - The same change of the side from starbord to port of the island of the IJN Generic Carrier allow to realize the Hiryu frankenships;

(third new ship) - If you delete the island of the USN CVL , this allow to realize the IJN CVL GENERIC like the Shoho , Zuiho , Chioda and Chitose frankenships;

(fourth new ship) - If you delete the island of the USN CVE , this allow to realize the IJN CVE GENERIC like the Taiyo , Chuyo , Unyo and other similar frankenships that at the moment I don't remember.

Yes , those new ships will be the stock ones with really little modification but they are badly needed in the game!

I make a pool for this topic to allow people to add their opinion (positive or negative) at my thought!

Hope you can feel this usefull!!

cheers

walter

[EoW_WhamO_CO]

+1

[Guest]

+1

But remember, with only the change or elimination of the "island/command bridge, funnel structure" what you will obtain will still be a "lookalike" Kaga or Hiryu or whatever carrier you want, will still not be the real thing. But of course, better than nothing...

Carry on!

[dunkelgrun]

I made Hiryu, Kaga and Soryu for the HSFX 4.0 pack. They are merely hacks, Hiryu being a reskinned Akagi and Kaga/Soryu being reskinned IJN Carrier Generic. Each has its own slot in the game; they are better than nothing but real new models would be the ideal. Lot of work though and not for me as skinning is stretching things for my abilities.

:cheers:

[Thrud]

we could use some japanese transport ships for the up coming New guinea map or the exsisting Slot map.

[Plumps]

Well the Pacific and fitting ships, that is a desert with a few water holes!
If there is interest in making Japanese ships, I could offer a large amount of picture material.
Here a few examples:




These three pictures are of the Japanese tanker ItsukushimaMaru.
Here is shown the activity of this ship during WWII:
21 April 1937:
Kobe. Laid down as a 10,006-ton merchant tanker by Kawasaki for Nippon Suisan, Tokyo.

4 September 1937:
Launched and named ITSUKUSHIMA MARU.

20 December 1937:
Completed.

15 January 1938:
Departs Japan as part of the Southern Ocean (Antarctic) whaling fleet, serving as a refueling ship during the whaling season. Probably also participates in the 1939 and 1940 whaling season operations.

14 August 1941:
Arrives at San Francisco.

2 November 1941:
Departs San Franscisco on her last peacetime oil voyage.

19 November 1941:
Arrives at Yokohama.

22 November 1941:
Requisitioned by the IJN and registered in the Kure Naval District.

4 February 1942:
Kendari, Celebes. LtCdr Lucius Chappell's USS SCULPIN (SS-191 sights destroyer SUZUKAZE patrolling the mouth of Staring Bay. About 1700, Chappell fires three torpedoes of which two hit SUZUKAZE aft of her stack and starboard in her No. 1 boiler room. Down by the bow, SUZUKAZE is beached to prevent sinking. Later, she is assisted by ITSUKUSHIMA and SAN CLEMENTE MARUs and destroyer YAMAKAZE back to Staring Bay for emergency repairs.

4 April 1942:
Arrives at Kure.

24 April 1942:
Arrives at Kobe.

6 June 1942:
Arrives at Kobe.

3 July 1942:
Arrives at Kure.

14 July 1942:
Arrives at Kure.

11 August 1942:
Arrives at Mako.

12 August 1942:
Departs Mako.

18 August 1942:
Arrives at Yokohama.

23 September 1942:
Departs Yokohama.

4 October 1942:
Arrives at Dairen, Manchukuo.

11 October 1942:
Departs Dairen.

13 October 1942:
Arrives at Dairen.

16 October 1942:
Departs Dairen.

12 November 1942:
Arrives at Yokohama.

15 November 1942:
Departs Yokohama.

16 November 1942:
Arrives at Kobe.

21 November 1942:
Departs Kobe for Singapore.

1 December 1942:
At 1600, departs Singapore with 15,440 kiloliters of crude oil.

10 December 1942:
Arrives at Yokkaichi.

15 December 1942:
Departs Yokkaichi.

16 December 1942:
Arrives at Kobe. Enters Kawasaki's dockyard to change main engine pistons.

18 December 1942:
Departs Kobe.

26 December 1942:
Arrives at Singapore.

30 December 1942:
Departs Singapore with a full load of 12,000 tons of crude oil.

11 January 1943:
Arrives at Yokkaichi.

15 January 1943:
Departs Yokkaichi.

16 January 1943:
Arrives at Kobe.

17 January 1943:
Departs Kobe.

9 February 1943:
Arrives at Tokuyama.

14 February 1943:
Departs Tokuyama.

15 February 1943:
Arrives at Kobe.

17 February 1943:
Departs Kobe.

27 February 1943:
Arrives at Singapore.

1 March 1943:
Departs Singapore.

9 March 1943:
Arrives at Shimotsu.

12 March 1943:
Departs Shimotsu.

13 March 1943:
Arrives at Kure.

15 March 1943:
Departs Kure.

24 March 1943:
Arrives at Palembang.

26 March 1943:
Departs Palembang.

28 March 1943:
Arrives at Singapore.

4 April 1943:
Arrives at Yokkaichi.

7 April 1943:
Departs Yokkaichi.

2 May 1943:
Arrives at Tokuyama.

5 May 1943:
Departs Tokuyama.

14 May 1943:
Arrives at Palembang.

16 May 1943:
Departs Palembang.

18 May 1943:
Arrives at Singapore.

21 May 1943:
Departs Singapore.

29 May 1943:
Arrives at Dairen, Manchukuo.

4 June 1943:
Departs Dairen.

7 June 1943:
Arrives at Kobe.

3 July 1943:
Departs Kobe.

4 July 1943:
Arrives at Kure.

6 July 1943:
Departs Kure.

7 July 1943:
Arrives at Tokuyama Fuel Depot.

9 July 1943:
Departs Tokuyama.

10 July 1943:
At 1200, departs Moji in convoy HI-01, the first of many fast convoys, consisting of ITSUKUSHIMA MARU and two unknown fast ships escorted by kaibokan SADO.

17 July 1943:
At 1130, arrives at Singapore.

5 August 1943:
At 1400, probably departs Singapore in convoy HI-04 consisting of four unknown fast ships escorted by kaibokan ETOROFU. [1]

10 August 1943:
Arrives at Manila.

11 August 1943:
At 1700, departs Manila. At 2030, ETOROFU discovers a surfaced submarine 5000 yards ahead and opens fire with her forward gun forcing the submarine to submerge. The frigate then drops depth charges for no visible results. For the next two days, ETOROFU continues to hunt in the area without success while the convoy steams ahead unescorted. [2]

15 August 1943:
Arrives at Moji.

17 August 1943:
Arrives at Tokuyama.

23 August 1943:
Departs Tokuyama.

25 August 1943:
At 0900, departs Moji in convoy HI-07 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, GOYO (ex cargo), NAMPO, OMUROSAN and NANEI MARUs (ex-MANATAWNY) and cargo-passenger ship USSURI MARU escorted by kaibokan ETOROFU.

29 August 1943:
Arrives at Takao.

30 August 1943:
Arrives at Mako. ETOROFU is detached and replaced by the kaibokan SADO.

8 September 1943:
Arrives at Saigon, considerably delayed by the slow speed of NANEI MARU.

9 September 1943:
Departs Saigon. [3]

11 September 1943:
At 1100, departs Singapore in convoy HI-08 consisting of five unidentified merchant ships escorted by kaibokan SADO.

12 September 1943:
The rest of convoy HI-07 arrives Singapore.

19 September 1943:
At 1700, arrives at Tomie, Goto Retto, Japan.

21 September 1943:
At 0725, departs Tomie and at 1200 arrives at Moji.

25 September 1943:
At 1200, departs Moji in high speed convoy HI-11 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA and KYUEI MARUs, ex-seaplane tender KAGU MARU and two other ships escorted by kaibokan ETOROFU.

29 September 1943:
At 0800, arrives at Takao and departs that same day.

4 October 1943:
At 1835, arrives at Singapore.

10 October 1943:
At 1358, departs Singapore in convoy HI-12 consisting of three unidentified merchants escorted by kaibokan ETOROFU.

16 October 1943:
At 1422, arrives at Takao.

17 October 1943:
At 1306, departs Takao.

21 October 1943:
At midnight, the convoy arrives at Moji.

22 October 1943:
Arrives at Yokoshima near Sasebo. [4]

25 November 1943:
Arrives at Moji.

28 November 1943:
Departs Moji.

28 November 1943:
Arrives at Tokuyama.

3 December 1943:
Departs Tokuyama and later that day arrives Moji.

5 December 1943:
Departs Moji as the second echelon of convoy HI-23 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, TATEKAWA and BOKUEI MARUs, with SUNOSAKI, OSE (ex-Dutch GENOTA) and probably TAKASAKI, all escorted by OSE. [5]

17 December 1943:
Arrives at Singapore.

26 December 1943:
At 1000, departs Singapore in convoy HI-26 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, OMUROSAN, TATEKAWA and AMATSU MARUs, cargo liner NANKAI MARU and two unidentified ships escorted by kaibokan TSUSHIMA.

1 January 1944:
Arrives at Takao.

7 January 1944:
At 1830, arrives at Moji.

8 January 1944:
Arrives at Iwakuni and departs later that day for Tokuyama.

9 January 1944:
Arrives at Tokuyama Fuel Depot. Departs later that day for Moji.

11 January 1944:
At 0830, departs Moji in convoy HI-31 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, GENYO, OMUROSAN, TATEKAWA, KUROSHIO MARUS and cargo liner HOKUROKU MARU escorted by carrier CHITOSE and destroyers AMATSUKAZE and YUKIKAZE.

16 January 1944:
N of the Spratly Islands. AMATSUKAZE detects a submarine and closes the target, but is hit portside by one of four torpedoes fired by LtCdr Robert D. King's USS REDFIN (SS-272) at 14-40N, 113-50E. AMATSUKAZE loses her bow and 80 crewmen. The convoy commander presumes AMATSUKAZE is sunk and proceeds onward. The destroyer is left adrift for eight days until discovered by a Japanese patrol plane. She is later towed to Saigon by ASAGAO.

20 January 1944:
At 1645, the convoy arrives at Singapore.

25 January 1944:
At 0730, departs Singapore in convoy HI-32 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, GENYO, OMUROSAN, TATEKAWA, KUROSHIO MARUs and transport/cargo liner HOKUROKU MARU escorted by carrier CHITOSE and destroyer YUKIKAZE.

4 February 1944:
CHITOSE detaches and heads to Sasebo. At 1100, the convoy arrives at Moji.

8 February 1944:
Departs Iwakuni and later that day arrives at Tokuyama.

13 February 1944:
Departs Tokuyama.

14 February 1944:
Arrives at Moji.

16 February 1944:
At 0600, departs Moji in convoy HI-45 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, OMUROSAN, KUROSHIO and TATEKAWA MARUs, cargo liner ARIMASAN and troop transport TAMATSU MARU and another unidentified ship escorted by destroyer SHIOKAZE.

20 February 1944:
SHIOKAZE is detached from the convoy.

21 February 1944:
KUROSHIO MARU develops engine trouble, drops behind and diverts to Takao.

22 February 1944:
Kaibokan MIYAKE joins as escort.

23 February 1944:
TAMATSU MARU is detached from the convoy and heads for Manila. SHIOKAZE rejoins as an escort.

27 February 1944:
At 1700, arrives at Singapore.

11 March 1944:
At 0730, convoy HI-48 departs Singapore consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, OMUROSAN, OTOWASAN, TATEKAWA, ITSUKUSHIMA, SEIYO, NICHIEI and KUROSHIO MARUs, transport/cargo liners AWA, SANUKI, TEIA and HOKUROKU MARUs and two unidentified ships escorted by kaibokans MIYAKE, SHIMUSHU, IKI and ETOROFU.

14 March 1944:
At 1700, arrives at Ban Phong Bay, French Indochina.

15 March 1944:
At 1100, departs Ban Phong Bay.

18 March 1944:
At 0114, HOKUROKU MARU is hit by four torpedoes fired by LtCdr Lowell T. Stone's USS LAPON (SS-260) and sinks at 19-24N, 116-50E. HOKUROKU MARU blows up and sinks in about one minute taking down 80 crewmen and 248 passengers. TEIA MARU sends off a report of the attack. Later that day, KASHII MARU joins the convoy.

19 March 1944:
At 0600, kaibokan SHIMUSHU runs aground, but later that day is refloated. At 1600, the convoy arrives at Takao.

20 March 1944:
At 1300, departs Takao.

25 March 1944:
At 0500, arrives at Moji. ITSUKUSHIMA MARU steams on to Iwakuni arriving later that day.

29 March 1944:
Departs Iwakuni.

30 March 1944:
Arrives at Moji.

1 April 1944:
Departs Moji in convoy HI-57 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, OTOWASAN, RYOEI and OMUROSAN MARUs, troop transports SHINSHU and MAYASAN MARUs and three unidentified ships escorted by escort carrier KAIYO and kaibokans ETOROFU, IKI, SHIMUSHU, CD-8, CD-9 and torpedo boat SAGI.

2 April 1944:
The convoy encounters extremely severe weather and returns to Moji.

3 April 1944:
At 0600, the unchanged convoy departs Moji.

7 April 1944:
At 1450, arrives at Takao.

8 April 1944:
At 1000, departs Takao.

12 April 1944:
At 1930 arrives at Camranh Bay.

13 April 1944:
At 1200, departs Camranh Bay.

16 April 1944:
At 1240, arrives at Singapore.

21 April 1944:
At 0700, departs Singapore in convoy HI-58 consisting of ITSUKUSHIMA MARU, troop transport SHINSHU MARU and five unidentified ships escorted by escort carrier KAIYO and kaibokans ETOROFU, IKI, SHIMUSHU, CD-8 and CD-9.

3 May 1944:
ITSUKUSHIMA MARU and ETOROFU are detached to Sasebo arriving later that day. Later, drydocked at Sasebo Naval Yard.

27 May 1944:
Departs Sasebo for Moji.

29 May 1944:
At 0600, departs Moji in convoy HI-65 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, OMUROSAN, ZUIHO and TOHO MARUs naval oiler SHIRETOKO, cargo liners ARIMASAN, MANILA, KASHII and TATSUWA MARUs and troop transport SHINSHU MARU escorted by light cruiser KASHII, escort carriers SHINYO and KAIYO, kaibokan AWAJI, CHIBURI, CD-19, minelayer TSUBAME and subchaser CH-60.

2 June 1944:
Formosa Straits. The AWAJI is torpedoed by LtCdr Albert L. Raborn's USS PICUDA (SS-382) and sinks near Yasho Island at 22-48N, 121-24E. Raborn fires two torpedoes at ARIMASAN MARU that cause her to collide with the SHINSHU MARU's stern. This causes a depth charge explosuion that kills about 70 men and damages her rudder. KASHII takes SHINSHU MARU in tow. ARIMASAN MARU is lightly damaged in the attack and heads for Kirun with KASHII and SHINSHU MARU. [6]

2 June 1944:
E of Formosa. The convoy is attacked by LtCdr (later Captain) Enrique D. Haskins' new USS GUITARRO (SS-363) enroute from Pearl to Fremantle. At 0519 and 0527, Haskins makes a moonlight periscope approach and fires six torpedoes at an oiler. One of the torpedoes makes a circular run and GUITARRO is forced deep. Later, GUITARRO avoids depth charge and aircraft attacks and escapes to Australia. Haskins claims four hits and sinking an oiler, but the claims cannot be substaniated.

4 June 1944:
Arrives at Takao, Formosa. KAIYO rejoins the convoy after brief stop at Saei. Oiler JINEI MARU joins the convoy at sea.

12 June 1944:
At 1350, arrives at Singapore.

18 June 1944:
At 1500, departs Singapore for Sasebo escorted by torpedo boat KARI.

22 June 1944:
Sulu Sea. At about 0500, Cdr Jack C. Titus' old USS NARWHAL (SS-167) makes a radar-depth approach on the ITSUKUSHIMA MARU. Titus sets up and fires four torpedoes and gets one hit at 09-00N, 120-55E. That same day, ITSUKUSHIMA MARU arrives at Negros Island for temporary repairs.

23 June 1944:
Bacolod Sea, off Negros Island. ITSUKUSHIMA MARU continues to undergo temporary repairs. The oiler HAYASUI arrives. Over the next few days,1,198-tons of fuel oil are transferred to HAYASUI and destroyers YUNAGI, MICHISHIO and NOWAKI.

1 July 1944:
Fuel transfer operations are completed.

2 July 1944:
About noon, ITSUKUSHIMA MARU, still capable of 13.5 knots, arrives at Manila with HAYASUI. Lightering operations begin and 3,027-tons of oil are transferred to HAYASUI and heavy cruiser MYOKO. Later, the 2,615-tons of oil left in ITSUKUSHIMA MARU's tanks are pumped ashore.

24 July 1944:
At 0600, departs Manila for Moji in convoy HI-68. The convoy sails in three columns consisting of landing ship MAYASAN MARU, oilers OTORISAN MARU and NICHINAN MARU No. 2 and escort carrier TAIYO in column no. 1; landing ship KOZU MARU (a.k.a. TAKATSU MARU) and transports TOSAN, KASHII, NISSHO and AKI MARUs in column no. 2 and KIYOKAWA MARU and oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, TOA, TOHO and SHIMPO MARUs in column no. 3. The escorts include escort carrier KAIYO, kaibokans HIRADO (F), KURAHASHI, ISHIGAKI, KUSAGAKI, MIKURA, CD-11, CD-20 and torpedo boat HIYODORI. The ships steam at 11.5 knots, the average speed for HI series convoys.

A three-submarine wolf pack of Cdr (later Rear Admiral) Rueben T. Whitaker

[Plumps]

Just as a addition to the topic this model existed but unfortunatly never made it into the game, this might be a interesting Project?



















And another IJN model which disappeared:

[Fusek]

Would it be possible to import ships from Silent hunter 3 or 4? Maybe someone could contact the modders on subsim.com if they are interested to share models?

Just a shot in the dark

[walter_solito]

Dear mates!

1) Like writed from asheshouse in his Tribal & Dido treads , importing ships from SH isn't so simple because the engine that manage them is different and the graphic is also not so compatible!

2) In my request I have tried to match two things between them because in the future project of asheshouse there is too a new carrier for RN for Mediterranean Theatre and , since I have thought that he must to make some experiments with the carrier itself , I have so suggested to make the 4 'new' IJN carriers in my first post like such training exercize!

3) Other ship than the carrier (even if really badly needed!!!!!) isn't compatible with his project and can't couple with it!

I'm really sorry to bother someone , I apologize for this , but please keep the tread in line with it's/mine purpose!

cheers

walter

[Plumps]

asheshouse is an RN specialist

new IJN ships!

Well in your post it was not so clear that the talk would be only about carriers.
As you mentioned yourself new IJN ships and the thread titel sudjests that too.

If it is only carriers, well at least they should be done properly and not just a bit munched around.
As that is a solution that on the long run will make no one really happy.

Sorry for posting then non useful material.

[akdavis]

Just please give any new ships the most complex damage model possible!

[asheshouse]

asheshouse is an RN specialist

Not really. After all I've only done one ship so far.
--- but I am concentrating on ships for the Mediterranean, which tends to rule out the IJN.

I'm quite tempted by some of the Italian Navy warships though.

It is a great pity that the game does not have any USN nor IJN battleships.
Pacific Fighters was a huge disappointment due to the limited choice of warships.

Dear mate!

I'm a profane in modding so I apologize for my ignorance and for bother you wiyh my topic!

Reading your post at goshikisen I have got an idea to couple with the two things: your interest in a new carrier for RN and the desire for new IJN ships!

In the realization of new carrier for RN that you think to realize in the future you need to do anyway some experiments with them so , if in the meantime of the experimetation , you'll do other 4 new slot for ship you can do 4 great needed ship for IJN and Pacific Theatre lovers and for a 'what if' scenarios between IJN and RN too:

(first new ship) - The change of the side from starbord to port of the island of the Akagi allow to realize the Kaga frankenship;

(second new ship) - The same change of the side from starbord to port of the island of the IJN Generic Carrier allow to realize the Hiryu frankenships;

(third new ship) - If you delete the island of the USN CVL , this allow to realize the IJN CVL GENERIC like the Shoho , Zuiho , Chioda and Chitose frankenships;

(fourth new ship) - If you delete the island of the USN CVE , this allow to realize the IJN CVE GENERIC like the Taiyo , Chuyo , Unyo and other similar frankenships that at the moment I don't remember.

Yes , those new ships will be the stock ones with really little modification but they are badly needed in the game!

I make a pool for this topic to allow people to add their opinion (positive or negative) at my thought!

Hope you can feel this usefull!!

cheers

walter

There is definitely a need for more ships for the Pacific theatre. If I had not decided to focus on the Med then my next choice would probably be the IJN. You have posted a long list, too long for me to spend time on. Maybe I could look at one of the projects if you could post some plans or images of Kaga to compare with Akagi to see if a frankenship is feasible. I would not want to do it unless the appearance could be made reasonably authentic. Were the hulls similar in length?

I do want to experiment with flight deck features so may as well use the Akagi to do it.

To answer another post. I don't think it would be easy to change the damage models. These are defined in the core programme not in the individual ship models.

Ashe

[walter_solito]

Thanks mate for the reply!

I have writed to you because I think that even a carrier that are only similar at the original one can be better than nothing!

What I have in mind were only some simple change that could be done without much work and time losses by you (mainly a simple island cancellation and/or side changes) to get a first step to fill the gap and fly from or against them!

As second step the new slot ships can be improved looking more similar to the original one!

I think that this simple modification can be done because at the moment many mission that in history have the Hiryu or the Kaga here use the IJN GEVERIC CV ar the AKAGI anyway!

We can't do many other action because we haven't IJN CVL (like Shoho in Coral Sea Battle) or CVE to take off with B5N and escort a convoy against some US subs and so on!

Those are the main difference between them:

IJN Shokaku-Zuikaku-Generic vs Hiryu

Displacements: 25675 / 20250 tons
Dimension: 844'10" x 85'4" x 29'1" / 745'11" x 73'3" x 25'9"
Speed: 34 / 34


IJN Akagi vs Kaga

Displacements: 41300 / 42541 tons
Dimension: 855'3" x 102'9" x 28'7" / 812'6" x 106'8" x 31'1"
Speed: 31 / 28


USN INDIPENDENCE vs IJN Shoho/Zuiho

Displacements: 11000 / 11262 tons
Dimension: 622'6" x 109'3" x 26'0" / 672'0" x 59'8" x 21'8"
Speed: 31 / 28


USN CVE Sangamon/Casablanca vs IJN Taiyo

Displacements: 10500/7800 / 17850 tons
Dimension: 553'6" x 114'3" x 30'7"/512'3" x 108'0" x 22'6" / 590'11" x 73'10" x 26'3"
Speed: 18/19 / 21


I think that the difference between them can be not so great to avoid such modification!

And those lay the foundation for future improvements!!!!

walter

[walter_solito]

@ Plumps

Dear mate!

Your post is true , I have quoted a portion for reference at asheshouse and so doing , maybe , I am been unclear with the others!

My greatest apologize!!!

I don't think that your post isn't useful , you have a great database and I'm sure that many guys 'll keep your nickname for future references request!

I know that what I'm asking can delude someone but I think that something is better than nothing anyway , allow a future improvements and (perhaps) don't subtract much time to asheshouse projects too!

At soon mate!!

walter

[Plumps]

@ walter_solito,

I understand what you are trying to do, misunderstandings can happen, is o.k.
Ship modifications I guess are still better than nothing.
If wished for I can post pictures of those mentioned carriers, but only if they are wished for.

Otherwise when the time comes, and people would like detailed material I will gladly post it then.