[Hairog]

Here is the link to my beta of WWIII 1946 USAAF Pilot Chapter One offline pilot career.

http://www.4shared.com/dir/25697320/e68 ... aring.html

Stalin attacks and World War III is on.

Put your feedback here in this thread.

[KG64_Cnopicilin]

So it's soviets VS America? Do I need any mods to run this?

[NineToes]

Seems nice, but only USAAF, no VVS missions? Sorry, not interested :lol:

[socorrista22198]

Seems nice, but only USAAF, no VVS missions? Sorry, not interested :lol:

Hi
What is VVS?

[KG64_Cnopicilin]

Seems nice, but only USAAF, no VVS missions? Sorry, not interested :lol:

Hi
What is VVS?

Soviet or russian/belarussian air force.

[kawilder1]

It is a USAAF campaign..............not a VVS campaign............hmmm, maybe that is why there is no VVS in it. I thought that was kinda clear to begin with.

Here is the link to my beta of WWIII 1946 USAAF Pilot Chapter One offline pilot career.

[NineToes]

It is a USAAF campaign..............not a VVS campaign............hmmm, maybe that is why there is no VVS in it. I thought that was kinda clear to begin with.

Stalin attacks and World War III is on.

I was saying that one can't fly the missions as Soviet against the USAAF

[Hairog]

No mods are needed.

This is the first of many mini campaigns all tied to this "What If" storyline

I am 75% done with the WWIII 1946 Soviet Fighter Pilot Career Chapter One. In this mini campaign you will be flying Soviet fighters against US/German/British and French pilots and planes.

Other careers are listed below.

You can choose to take part in several pilot careers and campaigns. In all of your campaigns you will get the toughest jobs and get to try out the newest equipment in combat.

The best fighter pilot in the American Army Air Force.
30 missions
Equipment includes
P51
YP80
TA 183
ME 262

The best ground attack pilot in the USAAF
25 missions
Equipment
P38
P47
DO 335

The best bomber pilot in the USAAF
20 missions
Equipment
A20
B25
GO 229

The best fighter pilot in the US Navy.
10 missions
Equipment
F6F
YP80
T183

The best dive bomber pilot in the US Navy.
6 missions
Equipment
SBD

The best fighter pilot in the US Marines.
6 missions
Equipment
F4F
YP80

The best fighter pilot in the RAF.
10 missions
Equipment
Spitfire
YP80

The best ground attack pilot in the RAF.
10missions
Equipment
Tempest
DO 335

The best bomber pilot in the RAF.
10 missions
Equipment
Mosquito
GO 229

Best fighter pilot in the French Air Force
5 missions
Equipment
P63 King Cobra
F4U
Tempest

Best ground attack pilot in the French Air Force
5 missions
Equipment
A20
Tempest

The best German fighter pilot flying with The USAAF
30 missions
Equipment
FW 190
TA 152
ME 262
TA 183
109Z twin 109

The best German ground attack pilot flying for the USAAF
25 missions
Equipment
Ju 88
Do 335
Go 229

The best Soviet fighter pilot
40 missions
Equipment
La7
Yak 9
Yak 3-RB
I 250
MiG 9
Yak 15
HE 162

The best Soviet Ground attack pilot
30 Missions
Equipment
IL 10
PE 2
PE 3
Yak 9T
Yak 9UT
Yak 9B
AR 234

The best Soviet Interceptor pilot
20 missions
Equipment
ME 163
Lerche
B-6
HE 162

[Hairog]

Here is were the storyline is to date

To sum it all up

[NineToes]

Oh, with additional info, this appears to be a great excuse for some over-the-top, fun-as-hell fighting. Really looking forward to it, sorry about before. I'd be glad to help, however, navy stuff isn't exactly my area.

[Hairog]

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[CzechTexan]

This looks like a grand project and sounds very interesting with fighting in the Pyrenes Mountains region. This defensive move by the allies is very good strategically. It reminds me of the Soviet defense in the Caucasus Mountains. What would be really great is if you could use a MOD map of this region. I wonder if Agracier has mapped this yet? :?:
Good project and good luck!

[caldrail]

[quote="Hairog"]Here is were the storyline is to date

To sum it all up

[Hairog]

"The whole point of your campaign is that Stalin is objecting to America's atomic weapons, and since they only have six, do something about it now before they seven. Is that right?

No that is not what I was trying to say. Maybe I wasn't clear.

Stalin wants to rule all of Europe and spread communism through out the world as he stated publicly many times. The only thing holding him back in my "what if" is the belief that the US has dozens maybe even up to a hundred of easy to use atom bombs. What he fears is this death from above.

He knows that his standing army can easily be increased rapidly with conscripts. In the end he can foreseeable have 15 million under arms by the middle of 1946. He knows that in a conventional war he will prevail and so does his former allies.

The real Joint Chiefs of Staff plans foresee a swift Soviet overrun of Western Europe. Their plans are based on this premise. In reality the bluff of the US and Britain worked and Stalin never pulled the trigger.

In my storyline he finds out that the West is indeed bluffing and decides to pull the trigger knowing that he will take 6 hits but also gambling that his country can withstand these six bombings. He also finds out just how hard it is to assemble and deliver the bombs. It takes up to 90 days to assemble and the only delivery system is 12 specially designed B29s. Add to this that the shelf life of an assembled Mark III atomic bomb is only 8 days.

In January the US has stationed some B29s only minutes from his borders. He reacts to this provocation much like the US reacted to having missiles put in Cuba during the 60s. He is ready willing and able to go to war to erase this threat. He has a full 90 days or more to overrun Western Europe and put another 500 miles of in depth air defense between him and certain destruction. Once Europe is subjugated it will be nearly impossible for the US and Britain to again pull off another D-Day and certainly not within the near future and by this time he will have his own atomic bomb via his spy network.

"he essential point here is that you're projecting the US and USSR as bitter rivals in 1946 which historically wasn't the case at all.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with this statement. We nearly came to blows over Turkey and the occupation of Eastern Europe. Stalin talked about WWII being just the beginning of a war between communism and capitalism.

" For his part, Joseph Stalin deepened the estrangement between the United States and the Soviet Union when he asserted in 1946 that World War II was an unavoidable and inevitable consequence of "capitalist imperialism" and implied that such a war might reoccur."

"At the conclusion of World War II, Stalin demanded partial control of the Dardanelles, a strategic passage between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean.[13][14] Since British assistance to Turkey had ended in 1947, the U.S. dispatched military aid to ensure that Turkey would retain chief control of the passage. The aircraft carrier Franklin D Roosevelt was sent to join the Missouri,[15] accompanied by $100 million in economic and military aid to the nation."

I like your storyline but if I use your ideas I cannot see anyway that Europe can be free again.

My "what if" follows closely the real Joint Chiefs of Staffs Plan Griddle. This was the prevailing plan until about 1948 and parts of it were used until the 50s. My added twists are a way that the "NATO" force could defeat the Red Army.

Your ideas are very thought provoking and I thank you for your input.

[caldrail]

We nearly came to blows over Turkey and the occupation of Eastern Europe

Turkey had sat on the fence almost to the end of WWII, declaring war on Germany on Feb 1945 as a formailty, seeing which way the wind was going and preferring to stay chums with the west. The reason was that throughout the war Stalin had pressured Turkey to give them Black Sea ports, obviously with a mind to retaining them in the post war period. Russia and Turkey were not good friends, thus Stalin felt some annoyance that the democratic nations had secured the Turkish vote (as it were). It was because of the increased American belligerence under Truman (who severely disliked communism) with the emergence of NATO and their support in Turkey that made Russia angry.

The occupation of eastern europe was agreed as part of the peace settlement and only became an issue in the 50's when the Soviet Union enforced communist rule on independent countries in the region.

In other words, the Cold War tension erupted after 1946, not during it, though I don't doubt there were political hassles even at that stage.

I like your storyline but if I use your ideas I cannot see anyway that Europe can be free again

Whichever way the wind blows. It's up to you and your own story to determine whether the West can either prevent the Russian advance or fight it back. Ultimately, the US can always invent the atom bomb, but if you don't want that sort of mayhem then consider other moves. I once thought of an idea in which Churchill used Finland as a staging post for an invasion. I'm sure you could think of others.