[Rjel]

One of the best IL2 films yet. It followed the Battle of Britain film very well. Imagine what could be done if they remade movie with today's technology.

[Guest]

One of the best IL2 films yet. It followed the Battle of Britain film very well. Imagine what could be done if they remade movie with today's technology.

It would lack the nice quanit feeling. IMHO most of todays films are highly overdone by CGI and the like. For me, a good example of a modern film that works, without using CGI excessively, is something like the Dark Knight or Slumdog Millionaire. If you look at Pearl Harbour, they might as well have stayed in a stufio if you look at the ammount of CGI used.

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

bah, imho comments.... :bumbed

personally, i don't mind either way, lotr was pretty damn epic and had bloomin' loads of cgi.

It can be no bad thing, i mean the BoB film was great, but with cgi some of the action scenes could have been done brilliantly, and there could have been less reliance on a few clips of aircraft exploding. It can add variety and if done well be pretty damn convincing.

[Guest]

bah, imho comments.... :bumbed

personally, i don't mind either way, lotr was pretty damn epic and had bloomin' loads of cgi.

It can be no bad thing, i mean the BoB film was great, but with cgi some of the action scenes could have been done brilliantly, and there could have been less reliance on a few clips of aircraft exploding. It can add variety and if done well be pretty damn convincing.

LotR did come to mind, but it was not overone in that film, in the smiliar way that avatar works. I just hate it when CGI is used for the sake of it. COmpare the old star-wars films with the new ones; the new ones may look better, but CGI is used where models could have been used which would have looked much more realistic. If we are to knit pick BoB then the whole thing can fall apart; particularly in the wardrobe department. However it is a classic, and I like it the way it is. Incidentally filming into the film (based on the excellent novel) 'first light' is underway so it will be interesting to see how that turns out. 8)

[Rjel]

bah, imho comments.... :bumbed

personally, i don't mind either way, lotr was pretty damn epic and had bloomin' loads of cgi.

It can be no bad thing, i mean the BoB film was great, but with cgi some of the action scenes could have been done brilliantly, and there could have been less reliance on a few clips of aircraft exploding. It can add variety and if done well be pretty damn convincing.

That has always been my biggest complaint about the Battle of Britain movie. The special effects are poorly done, even for a film from 1969. It could have been so much better. With the quality of CGI today, even the original movie could be brought to a higher standard. That'll never happen though.

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

phil, you have no idea how much cgi was used. Peter Jackson went overboard on a fair few occasions. It was well done is all.

[Guest]

phil, you have no idea how much cgi was used. Peter Jackson went overboard on a fair few occasions. It was well done is all.

No, that's what I mean; it looked right, I never sat there and thought "how fake is that" whereas in Pearl Harbour I just thought WTF?!

The BoB film is a classic. IMO for it to look right, it would have to be completely redone. I BoB film, IMO, is desperately in need in the war department. PoC is good, but that is not a film and again it could do with some CGI.

But now take a Dark Blue World. CGI was used effectively in that and it was not overdone. However, a lot of the combat came from the BoB film as did a lot of the combat in PoC. The fact of the matter is, I don't like it when film-makers use CGI because they CBA to go out there and make something themselves. If you watch Alien, the ALien in the first film is a lot scarier (it's not even scary though) than that in the third film. For me, if I can tell that something is CGI because it looks fake than the immersion in the film has gone downhill. I didn't have that in LotR and I certainly hope that won't be the same whenever FIrst Light comes out or when PJ's Dambusters comes out.

[Rjel]

The BoB film is a classic. IMO for it to look right, it would have to be completely redone. I BoB film, IMO, is desperately in need in the war department. PoC is good, but that is not a film and again it could do with some CGI.

It's a good film. No where near a classic in the same sense that Twelve O'clock High is a classic. Most of us as airplane buffs will think of it as a classic because of all the air action, most movie critics consider it to be a rather average film. The British actors are mostly excellent. The German parts are cartoonish for the most part. Compare the Battle of Britain with Tora, Tora, Tora and I think it's obvious which is the better film. Tora told it's story more evenly from both sides. I think too the special effects are much better than BoB even though they were made within a year of one another. Just my opinion.

[Guest]

I haven't seen the whole of Tora... so I can't comment. BoB was my favourite childhood film, so it'll always be special to me. As far as aerial scenes go though, PoC is standout.