[rzwan2007]

I have said that i cant access the UNDER BELLY Gunners (b-29),and Ventral Gunner in (avenger).and i have asked from others that can they access those positions.and some said they CAN with up 2.0

viewtopic.php?t=26405&highlight=give+straight+answers

so i installed up 2.0 (and all updates)

BUT I STILL CANT ACCESS THOSE POSITIONS. but dunkelgrun in the above post said ("Not a problem. IIRC those gun positions were left out from HSFX because they were very poor quality. ")

THEN HOW DID SOME PEOPLE SAID THEY CAN ACCESS AND FIRE THOSE POSITIONS ???!!!

or is this a problem with my computer i have Both HSFX 4.11 and UP 2.0 and cant fire those positions.




and sorry for any grammer and spelling mistakes and my way of asking questions

[{HVY-E}Jinxx]

Can you post your Conf.ini
Problem may lay here:


PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

S!

[rzwan2007]

Can you post your Conf.ini
Problem may lay here:


PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

S!

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[{HVY-E}Jinxx]

Everything looks like it's in the proper place. Only thing I can think of is that you got a corrupt d/l of UP.
You may want to try HSFX, but I have no problems with either when flying the bombers.

Are you getting any kind of error when going to the gunners positions, or are you just unable to operate them when you get into that position?

[rzwan2007]

Everything looks like it's in the proper place. Only thing I can think of is that you got a corrupt d/l of UP.
You may want to try HSFX, but I have no problems with either when flying the bombers.

Are you getting any kind of error when going to the gunners positions, or are you just unable to operate them when you get into that position?

i cant evern access the position.(can u access the postions ? b-29 UNDER gunners )

all available gun postions for me is in b-29 when i cycle through is 2 top gunners 1 tail gunner and the cock pit)

and i also have hsfx 4.11 and it has the same problem.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Everything looks like it's in the proper place. Only thing I can think of is that you got a corrupt d/l of UP.
You may want to try HSFX, but I have no problems with either when flying the bombers.

Are you getting any kind of error when going to the gunners positions, or are you just unable to operate them when you get into that position?

i cant evern access the position.(can u access the postions ? b-29 UNDER gunners )

all available gun postions for me is in b-29 when i cycle through is 2 top gunners 1 tail gunner and the cock pit)

and i also have hsfx 4.11 and it has the same problem.

Probally has something to do with limitations of the sim

In that I belive the guns bot were controled via the two side blister windows on the sides of the plane, there was no belly gunner ball turret that a guy sat in like the B17

http://www.sun-inet.or.jp/~ja2tko/eng/o ... seum2.html

[dunkelgrun]

I have said that i cant access the UNDER BELLY Gunners (b-29),and Ventral Gunner in (avenger).and i have asked from others that can they access those positions.and some said they CAN with up 2.0

viewtopic.php?t=26405&highlight=give+straight+answers

so i installed up 2.0 (and all updates)

BUT I STILL CANT ACCESS THOSE POSITIONS. but dunkelgrun in the above post said ("Not a problem. IIRC those gun positions were left out from HSFX because they were very poor quality. ")

THEN HOW DID SOME PEOPLE SAID THEY CAN ACCESS AND FIRE THOSE POSITIONS ???!!!

or is this a problem with my computer i have Both HSFX 4.11 and UP 2.0 and cant fire those positions.




and sorry for any grammer and spelling mistakes and my way of asking questions

For goodness sake. :roll:

Just how many times do you want the same question answered?

YOU CANNOT ACCESS THOSE POSITIONS IN HSFX. End of story. I gave you the reason why. If other mod packs have them working then try those.

Sorry about the CAPS (and large font) but hey, you started it.

[rzwan2007]

I have said that i cant access the UNDER BELLY Gunners (b-29),and Ventral Gunner in (avenger).and i have asked from others that can they access those positions.and some said they CAN with up 2.0

viewtopic.php?t=26405&highlight=give+straight+answers

so i installed up 2.0 (and all updates)

BUT I STILL CANT ACCESS THOSE POSITIONS. but dunkelgrun in the above post said ("Not a problem. IIRC those gun positions were left out from HSFX because they were very poor quality. ")

THEN HOW DID SOME PEOPLE SAID THEY CAN ACCESS AND FIRE THOSE POSITIONS ???!!!

or is this a problem with my computer i have Both HSFX 4.11 and UP 2.0 and cant fire those positions.




and sorry for any grammer and spelling mistakes and my way of asking questions

For goodness sake. :roll:

Just how many times do you want the same question answered?

YOU CANNOT ACCESS THOSE POSITIONS IN HSFX. End of story. I gave you the reason why. If other mod packs have them working then try those.

Sorry about the CAPS (and large font) but hey, you started it.

No no sorry What i wanted to know was a guys in the earlier posts said they CAN access those postions.one guy had hsfx 4.11 and one had up2.0.what i need to know is then HOW IS IT POSSIBLE. how did they done it if u cant access it in hsfx at all. (i have installed up 2.0 and it dont work in that either )

[Oscarito]

rzwan2007


I am a very pragmatic man. I see this game as a never ending WIP. So there are a lot of things which we have and many other things we don't have (at least not yet). Well, let's enjoy the lot of things we already have and expect patiently for the other things since they do not depend on our own work but on the work of other people more skilled than us.

I think we should always try to adapt ourselves to the circunstances when there is nothing more to be done.

In this sense, when you are flying alone in a bomber with no defensive ventral guns available and you are beeing attacked by enemy fighters, step down to a very low altitude to deny them approaching you from below and try to defend yourself with the DORSAL gunners!

Assume the ventral gun of your plane is jammed, ground crew forgot to fed it with ammunition, the gunner became paralized because the fear, fainted, bailed out without permission or something like that. This kind of things usually happened in real wartime missions. Try to use your imagination, ...or choose another plane. Come on, it's a game!


S!

[darkwingduck]

Enola Gay's crew on 6 August 1945 consisted of 12 men:

(Asterisks denote regular crewmen of the Enola Gay.)

* Colonel Paul W. Tibbets, Jr. – Pilot and Aircraft commander
* Captain Robert A. Lewis – Co-pilot; Enola Gay's assigned aircraft commander*
* Major Thomas Ferebee – Bombardier ; replaced regular crewman Donald Orrphin.
* Captain Theodore "Dutch" Van Kirk – Navigator[10]
* U.S. Navy Captain William S. "Deak" Parsons – Weaponeer and bomb commander; replaced regular crewman William "Bill" Arre, due to his advanced knowledge of atomic weaponry.
* Lieutenant Jacob Beser – Radar countermeasures (also the only man to fly on both of the nuclear bombing aircraft)
* Second Lieutenant Morris R. Jeppson – Assistant weaponeer
* Technical Sergeant George R. "Bob" Caron – Tail gunner* (ONLY ONE!)
* Technical Sergeant Wyatt E. Duzenberry – Flight engineer*
* Sergeant Joe S. Stiborik – Radar operator*
* Sergeant Robert H. Shumard – Assistant flight engineer*
* Private First Class Richard H. Nelson – VHF radio operator*
* John P. Merrill -- flight surgeon[11]

Sad but true

[darkwingduck]

Nagasaki mission crew
Crew C-15. front row: Dehart, Kuharek, Buckley, Gallagher, Spizer; back row: Olivi, Beahan, Sweeney, Van Pelt, Albury

Crew C-15 (normally assigned to The Great Artiste):

* Maj Charles W. Sweeney, aircraft commander
* Capt Charles Donald Albury, co-pilot (pilot of Crew C-15) [3]
* 2nd Lt Fred Olivi, regular co-pilot
* Capt James van Pelt, navigator
* Capt Kermit Beahan, bombardier
* Master Sergeant John D. Kuharek, flight engineer
* SSgt Ray Gallagher, gunner, assistant flight engineer
* SSgt Edward Buckley, radar operator
* Sgt Abe Spitzer, radio operator
* Sgt Albert Dehart, tail gunner (only one!)


B-29 Silverplate -more historical than technical mod

[KG64_Cnopicilin]

The famous "If you loose the control of your gunners"-Thread? Was that about it?

[Quelty]

The famous "If you loose the control of your gunners"-Thread? Was that about it?

that was more about no control once you got in gunner's positions and the fix was in conf.ini change ViewSet to 36. I have UP installed and have no probs firing from any of the gunner's positions. rzwan2007, this may sound like a silly question, but you do have a key bound to change positions in aircraft?

Cheers

Quelty

[coatesy75]

Rzwan2007
i have HSFX 4.1 & UP2.1 and i can NOT ( ACCESS THOSE POSITIONS )
ok M8

[darkwingduck]

i have HSFX 4.1

B-29 5 positions
B-29 Silverplate 3 positions