[beercamel]

I DON’T want to start a tinkling contest of “Mine is better than yours”..
But I would like to use some of the outstanding experience on this forum.. I need some input from guys who are actually using these Video cards.. In IL2!

I have read on several forums that Nvidia, the GTX 460 in particular.. are having frame rate problems with Open GL.. Since IL2 runs best (and in ‘perfect’ mode) in Open GL.. This is a concern..

I have been a Nvidia guy for the last 7 years or so.. mainly because both my brother and I experienced a very high failure rate of ATI cards.. Before AMD bought them.. I am saying this to emphasis I have NO ALLEGIANCE to either brand.. I just want a trouble free, reliable card for IL2..

I Do Not have a leading bleeding edge computer.. I have and Intel Core 2 Duo E8500..with a NV 8800 GT... And windows XP.. (although I may try windows 7)… depending how much spare cash I have.. and your advice will determine which card I get… My sweet spot is generally around $200.00 US +/- $20.00..
I have been reading this..
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/bes ... ,2912.html
And this..
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rad ... ,2857.html
What do you guys think…

Thanks in advance!

[skyomish]

I have the NVidia GTS 250 on my machine and it runs great.
Setting are set to Perfect in OPEN GL with no problems.
On-Line my FPS runs from 75 fps - to - 145 fps.
This is with Win7 - X64.

[beercamel]

I have the NVidia GTS 250 on my machine .

My concern is with the '400' series NV cards.. as those are the ones in my current price range.. I have read several posts.... including on this forum.. of those cards having real trouble with Open GL..

Thanks for your answer though!

[Fireskull]

I DON’T want to start a tinkling contest of “Mine is better than yours”..
But I would like to use some of the outstanding experience on this forum.. I need some input from guys who are actually using these Video cards.. In IL2!

I have read on several forums that Nvidia, the GTX 460 in particular.. are having frame rate problems with Open GL.. Since IL2 runs best (and in ‘perfect’ mode) in Open GL.. This is a concern..

I have been a Nvidia guy for the last 7 years or so.. mainly because both my brother and I experienced a very high failure rate of ATI cards.. Before AMD bought them.. I am saying this to emphasis I have NO ALLEGIANCE to either brand.. I just want a trouble free, reliable card for IL2..

I Do Not have a leading bleeding edge computer.. I have and Intel Core 2 Duo E8500..with a NV 8800 GT... And windows XP.. (although I may try windows 7)… depending how much spare cash I have.. and your advice will determine which card I get… My sweet spot is generally around $200.00 US +/- $20.00..
I have been reading this..
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/bes ... ,2912.html
And this..
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rad ... ,2857.html
What do you guys think…

Thanks in advance!

Hi, beercamel


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Quick comment: The hardware of the NVIDIA 400 series is great but it is the drivers which can sometimes create problems with IL-2. It is hit and miss depending on specific model of card and driver.

AMD and NVIDIA both make great hardware that looks fantastic with IL-2 when the drivers are all right.



Fireskull

[AdamB]

Hi beercamel, if you are looking for a graphics card the gtx460 is a good one from nvidia. I currently use the new gts450 which is about £100 ($140). I have to be honest for IL-2 1946 it is not the best one on the world as it will not work above 60fps. This must be a limited maximum. However that is not to say that it is not a good card and it is great if you Sli link it. For the new IL-2 (depending on what your other specs are) you should be able to run the game at medium settings at an average of 30-40fps over water and 25-30 over land. I have no experience with ATI cards but I was comparing two the 6850 and the Nvidia GTX 550Ti twin Frozr. Both of these are around the £150 ($225) mark and are both much better than the Nvidia 400 series, apart from the GTX550 which is amost a bridging gap between the GTX460 and the GTX 560.

A good site to look at reviews and see actual independent test results is tomshardware. Just search for it In google. I am afraid I can't be of anymore help and I hope you will end up with the best graphics card you can afford.

AdamB

[GEORGES44]

Hi beercamel,

Regarding the Nvidia 400 series,
I bought a GTX460 3 months ago, and I spent an agonising 2 months trying to get a decent fps instead of a slide show. I went through all the forums, tested a lot of settings before hitting the real culprit: RAM
I originally had 4 GB of RAM on a Win 7 /64 bits and I thought it was enough: but when I upgraded to 8 GB RAM, all my troubles disappeared, and I can now run IL2 UP 2.01 on full settings. Running real smooth, with just the occasional micro-freeze from time to time.
I don't know if it is only the GTX 460 or the duet Win 7-64 / GTX 460, but sure they need their RAM. Consider it when choosing, adding ram will also add to the cost.

Cheers

[beercamel]

Thanks to everybody for the replies!..

I have the NVidia GTS 250 on my machine and it runs great.
Setting are set to Perfect in OPEN GL with no problems.
On-Line my FPS runs from 75 fps - to - 145 fps.
This is with Win7 - X64.

Thanks Skyomish.. But The stuff I read about Open GL problems were/are specific to the Fermi chip

Hi beercamel, if you are looking for a graphics card the gtx460 is a good one from nvidia. I currently use the new gts450 which is about £100 ($140). I have to be honest for IL-2 1946 it is not the best one on the world as it will not work above 60fps. This must be a limited maximum. However that is not to say that it is not a good card and it is great if you Sli link it. For the new IL-2 (depending on what your other specs are) you should be able to run the game at medium settings at an average of 30-40fps over water and 25-30 over land. I have no experience with ATI cards but I was comparing two the 6850 and the Nvidia GTX 550Ti twin Frozr. Both of these are around the £150 ($225) mark and are both much better than the Nvidia 400 series, apart from the GTX550 which is amost a bridging gap between the GTX460 and the GTX 560.

A good site to look at reviews and see actual independent test results is tomshardware. Just search for it In google. I am afraid I can't be of anymore help and I hope you will end up with the best graphics card you can afford.

AdamB

This is why I am leaning toward AMD.. BTW if you check my links.. ‘Toms hardware’ is where I got that info..

Hi beercamel,

Regarding the Nvidia 400 series,
I bought a GTX460 3 months ago, and I spent an agonizing 2 months trying to get a decent fps instead of a slide show. I went through all the forums, tested a lot of settings before hitting the real culprit: RAM
I originally had 4 GB of RAM on a Win 7 /64 bits and I thought it was enough: but when I upgraded to 8 GB RAM, all my troubles disappeared, and I can now run IL2 UP 2.01 on full settings. Running real smooth, with just the occasional micro-freeze from time to time.
I don't know if it is only the GTX 460 or the duet Win 7-64 / GTX 460, but sure they need their RAM. Consider it when choosing, adding ram will also add to the cost.

Cheers

This is EXACTLY what I have read elsewhere.. in fact more negative things than this.. but similar.. I am under the impression it’s a hardware issue with ‘Fermi’ that is being addressed through driver band-aids.. The slideshow problem has been in both XP and Windows 7.. from different things I read..

Anyway.. Thanks for all the good information..


QUESTION: I am seriously considering the AMD Radeon 6870..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 0HD%206870

Does anybody have one?

If so can you tell me about your experience with it in IL2?

Thanks

[AdamB]

Hey guys,

I have been doing some research myself as i am hoping to get a new graphics card for my birthday

I have been looking at the GTX 560 Ti twin frozr. It looks a very good card for £190.

I have also been looking at the ATI HD6870, however if this is placed into a 2.0 PCI-E (16x) slot apparently it looses performence and seeing as there are very very very few motherboards supporting the new 2.1 slot it doesnt seem like you are getting anything better for your money.

Heres the links i found the cards at and hope this helps you all,

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-msi- ... -384-cores

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-msi- ... ee-shogun2

heres the benchmark i found
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/20 ... 4826%5D=on


P.S. if any of you have advice for me i would appreciate it but dont forget that we are primarily helping Beercamel.


AdamB