[londo16]

Alrighty true or untrue DM,
you and Beowolf banned all members of SAS admin team from here and FM first before your account was banned at SAS.
Answer that in a logical and factually supported way and I'll never post anything here again.(well maybe can't guarantee that sorry it's too much fun)
And Beowolf insult my looks is uncalled and spiteful. I mean vomit four times a day to maintain my figure

[Deutschmark]

Alrighty true or untrue DM,
you and Beowolf banned all members of SAS admin team from here and FM first before your account was banned at SAS.
Answer that in a logical and factually supported way and I'll never post anything here

1, Untrue, BravoFxTrt who was a SAS admin at the time posted in that thread the 7th post down from the top and that was after I was banned.
2, Untrue, Storebror who was and still is a SAS admin was at this site PMing me after I was banned and I have the PMs to prove it.

So if that is the best you can do, then am giving you my one and only warning right now, other then your apology to me for just about calling me a liar don't post anything more in this thread for the next 24 hours or you will be out of here.

Deutschmark

[Beowolff]

Alrighty true or untrue DM,
you and Beowolf banned all members of SAS admin team from here and FM first before your account was banned at SAS.
Answer that in a logical and factually supported way and I'll never post anything here again.(well maybe can't guarantee that sorry it's too much fun)
And Beowolf insult my looks is uncalled and spiteful. I mean vomit four times a day to maintain my figure

i'll answer for FM then let DM answer for this site when he comes back on next.

Alrighty true or untrue DM,
you and Beowolf banned all members of SAS admin team from here and FM first before your account was banned at SAS.

FACT: that's a bold-faced lie. true enough GJE52 was banned at the FM site by me for causing trouble there. (as he had previously already been banned for causing trouble there the same way and was 'only' back there under specifically 'agreed upon terms' of acceptable behavior. other's there were 'not' banned until much later than he.

SAS admins such as Bombsaway and Anto had NOT been banned there right on up until I and DM were banned at the SAS. in fact, even 'after' DM and I were banned I was still getting correspondence thru the FM private message system from both Anto 'and' Bombsaway...which proves what you say is not only wrong...but a big ole fat lie.

And Beowolf insult my looks is uncalled and spiteful. I mean vomit four times a day to maintain my figure

insulting my intelligence and calling me ---the Master! and saying what you said about ME when I had said NOTHING about YOU first is somehow NOT uncalled for? nor mean nor spiteful? d'oh! oh...and yes, I can believe that you make yourself vomit. hell, you're doing a damned good job of making me want to puke too.

:-?

[Beowolff]

oh I see DM had already answered.

good for you, buddy.

and I can completely vouch for what you say as I was ONLINE and present WHEN all of that went down.

looks like the stupe's busted don't it? lol!

[HotelAlpha200]

My final word on this thread since I have posted all that I feel needs to be.


Beo, according to your post you have violated some rules that you laid out yourself.

....you've signed up under a 'new' FAKE account over at the FM site...which is clearly 'not' allowed in our rules yet I....

You signed up as Freemodder_one and then signed up as Beowolff. One was fake.

And this other one,

all I and the FM site ever asks from 'any' of our members is to come over there and act right

Acting right, is apparently going into FM and making a thread defaming and embarrassing someone else.


When you said this about my 3D model:

for another the program you're showing it in is NOT one that will work on fixing the 3D model and getting it ready for importation into the game of IL2.

Have you heard of exporting your model as another format to manipulate in another program?


Really obvious answer to that.

[Ice_Eagle]

Wow! I go fishing, and this is what I come home too?!?!? LOL!

In regards to max_thehitman:

FACT: My comment was made to max_thefraudman in an open forum under 'comments' for his Albatros skin @ M4T.
FACT: I wasn't even mad.
FACT: I told max_thefraudman just to give credit where credit is do.
FACT: max_thefraudman blew a gasket in the general forum @ M4T.
FACT: It was RESOLVED @ M4T, no warnings, no banning, no anything.
FACT: max_thefruadman decided to carry it over to SAS when he couldn't get HIS way @ M4T.
FACT: @ SAS in an open forum max_thefraudman demanded a public apology for me accusing him of stealing.
FACT: max_thefraudman never got his apology for that.
FACT: max_thefraudman got an apology from me for bringing the accusation into public view.
FACT: max_thefraudman accepted that apology.

There yah go, lock stock, & barrel.

Never mind the fact that Anto asked me for my Albatros engine texture to send to Gerax(?) Which.. and wait for it.. ended up
in max_thefraudmans template. Anto knows this is 100% true. But I'm not mad about that either, only where it ended up.

God only knows where my new FM for the BF 109G-14/AS is gonna end up. IN the next DBW no doubt lmao.

PS, If you look at max_thefradmans Albatros template, he cleverly hides Phas3e name in buried layers.. PUT IT UP TOP in plain view maxie boy!!

[Vpmedia]

Max is a very talented graphic designer.
You are not.
Get over it

[Beowolff]

My final word on this thread since I have posted all that I feel needs to be.


Beo, according to your post you have violated some rules that you laid out yourself.

....you've signed up under a 'new' FAKE account over at the FM site...which is clearly 'not' allowed in our rules yet I....

You signed up as Freemodder_one and then signed up as Beowolff. One was fake.

yes, except originally there were THREE 'different' guys using the Free Modder namesake, of which 'I' was only one of those three guys. This was a protective device 'for the site' as during it's construction we three original owners were 'still' members elsewhere (namely SAS for one) and didn't want to get banned there for opening another full bore modding site under our real names. all three of us had (and freely used) the Free Modder namesake as a head or lead moderator/admin position so we could remain anonymous as we signed in on site there and actually 'built' the site. the site was under constant SAS attack there during the early days for the SAS's stance (and still is to a large degree) was that ONLY THEY had the right to mod IL2, so even after the other two guys (also using the Free Modder log-in name) tired of the constant hate and harassment and left the FM site, I ...as SOLE OWNER and HEAD ADMIN at that time, continued to use the Free Modding log-in and namesake when I wanted to. ---after all, I owned the place and could (and still can) use whatever name I wish at any time I wish. why? because it was MY site. in every site (even the SAS) the owners and head admins have this power. that's not to say anybody else can if specific rules have been made to the contrary...but as OWNERS...we have that right.

if you don't understand that it's because you're incapable of sound thinking. and whether you personally 'like' that or not... I don't give a flying flip.

YOU however did NOT own the FM site, and never will, and were directly told of the rules thereof. and you broke them, willingly and on purpose in an attempt to deceive me, the other present admins, and the general membership of the site. and to add hurt to the injury, you slurred me and dishonored me (no surprise from someone such as you.) yeah, you surely deserved what you got.

And this other one,

all I and the FM site ever asks from 'any' of our members is to come over there and act right

Acting right, is apparently going into FM and making a thread defaming and embarrassing someone else.

sorry, but acting RIGHT is simply that despite you trying to make it something else. acting right means not coming in somewhere begging and pleading to be a friend to someone and making accusations about someone at another site (when you were crying about how bad the SAS were treating you) then running as fast as you can BACK over there to 'their' site and making the same accusations about me to them.

yes, I made a post telling everyone WHO you were after I caught you red-handed making false posts, pretending to be someone else, in general LYING through your teeth. but I specifically said that it wasn't done to embarrass anyone but rather to STOP the wrong stuff you were doing. and in that post I gave you the option to 'act right' and keep 'one' of your persona's ...(which ever one you wanted) and that would have been the end of it until YOU decided to act like a spoiled three year old and attack and slander me. again, you got what YOU deserved. sorry if it don't taste so good. it serves you right.


When you said this about my 3D model:

for another the program you're showing it in is NOT one that will work on fixing the 3D model and getting it ready for importation into the game of IL2.

Have you heard of exporting your model as another format to manipulate in another program?


Really obvious answer to that.

yeah, what is REALLY obvious to all is that as I said YOU did not make the 3D model, you are NOT a 3D artist in any way. that was the truth what I said about that program...that is NOT the proper importation program to import the model into the game with. and most of all that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to modeling, importing into the game, or making even the simplest mods for the game. in fact, the entire 'put-on-show' of you displaying a picture of that model is to BRAG and to PRETEND that you actually know how to mod when YOU do NOT have a frigging clue of it. once again rather than be truthful and simply say...'I don't know shite', you continue to TRY and act as if you'll have your so-called model flying in the game in the next couple of days. ha!

and yeah, I take offense to THAT sort of deceitful bullshite, you bet I do! modding in IL2 is hard work and requires a lot of hard effort and understanding and trying to BRAGG off about it, or show out with it, or pretend and lie and cheat people about it...yes, that's about as LOW as LOW can be for anyone. and you're damned right I called you down on it (and rightfully so.) and by God i'll continue to do it as you continue to talk shite and attempt to TRICK people about what you're doing and what you know.

also what is REALLY obvious is that (once again) we see you as the liar you are.... for only a post or so back you said THIS:

This is probably my last post on this matter.


Count on that.


I have better things to do than to listen to this...

you're going to continue to run off at the mouth and pretend to be some smart, perky, know-it-all IL2 modder and super smart butt-wipe trying to wiggle out of all the lies, tricks and bullshite you've spewed and tried to spread. ---and it won't work for nobody but your 'swap out' buds believe it. the rest of us DO NOT. and with every stupid, accusing post you make you only make your own self look more and more ignorant.

continue on this way and i'll have to post up all your HATE stuff about GJE52 and the other SAS guys so they'll for sure know you for who you are.

I kid you not.

Beo

[Beowolff]

Max is a very talented graphic designer.
You are not.
Get over it

hell no, YOU get over it VP.

while I totally agree with you that Max is talented, that doesn't take 'anything' away from ice or ice's skills. and your uncalled for 'popping' in here to get a low dig in at him makes you look pretty damned shitty your own self.

as is usual for the SAS crowd you feel you have the right to do that kind of thing. and as is usual, you are dead wrong.

:|

[asheshouse]

Wow! Whats happened to this thread since I was away.

My original request was for some proof to be posted to backup the statement that Max had "ripped off" textures which were Ice's original work (as per the M4T incident).

No proof has been provided. I must conclude therefore that none exists and that Ice's original stance on this was an error on his part.

Beo needs to stop posting about this as if he knows it to be a fact when in truth he is only surmising based on, at best, second hand information.

Ice'e apology to Max is accepted by all parties as a fact, which most would think would close the matter.

But now Ice says that his apology was not an admission that he was wrong --- just a vague apology --- for something.
What was the original wording of the apology? We only have Ice's subsequent interpretation.

The most important thing is the lack of proof to backup the original "ripped off" accusation.
Does any exist? Try and stay focussed Beo. This is the bit where you are invited to provide an answer.

Ashe

[Ice_Eagle]

@ Vpmedia, yeah your right.. I'm talentless..





@ Ashe Proof sure, max took those textures from a model of mine. I recognize my texture pattern anywhere.
He accepted my apology for bringing it up in an open forum. I MADE NO REFERENCE IN THAT APOLOGY for him stealing it.
HE read it at SAS & he accepted it. Ask your buddies at SAS to read the thread, I'm sure its still in an 'off limits' area.

You know what Ashe.. I'm done talkin to you. You are f*ckin clueless.. believe what you want, as I don't need you to believe
sh!t. But a partying thought about the retradness @ SAS, what did Barnsey get banned for?.. oh yah, posting a pic.

[Beowolff]

Wow! Whats happened to this thread since I was away.

My original request was for some proof to be posted to backup the statement that Max had "ripped off" textures which were Ice's original work (as per the M4T incident).

No proof has been provided. I must conclude therefore that none exists and that Ice's original stance on this was an error on his part.

Beo needs to stop posting about this as if he knows it to be a fact when in truth he is only surmising based on, at best, second hand information.

Ice'e apology to Max is accepted by all parties as a fact, which most would think would close the matter.

But now Ice says that his apology was not an admission that he was wrong --- just a vague apology --- for something.
What was the original wording of the apology? We only have Ice's subsequent interpretation.

The most important thing is the lack of proof to backup the original "ripped off" accusation.
Does any exist? Try and stay focussed Beo. This is the bit where you are invited to provide an answer.

Ashe

I can only surmise then, Ashe... that you have a 'special' condition whereas you cannot understand plain English or are unable to correlate words and or facts into simple and coherent thought processes as the 'answer' to your 'broke record' question is as clear to ordinary, non-afflicted folks as the nose on their faces especially as it has been patiently explained at length now numerous times.

this is sad and grieves me no end, however I would say that likely it's cause is your nose pressed against the SAS bum. as I've noticed this 'same' sad blight and affliction with several others of that ilk.

just a suggestion but something that 'might' help would be for you to 'back' away from the crack of the bum and come up for some fresh air every once and awhile. hopefully this would clear your thoughts (or at least your direct vision) so that you might 'once' again think more clearly and with some good sense.

here's hoping you get better (eventually.)

S!

Beo

[asheshouse]

Ice -- What are you intending to demonstrate by posting those two images?

Are they both skins by you, or is one by you and one by Max?
They both seem to be based on the same template. Was the template produced by you?

Other than that they are based on a similar source publication they seem to be quite different works.
Examine the details around the fuselage below the engine for example.
The mottled pattern does not seem to be identical but is maybe based on the same source?
What exactly are you claiming?



Beo --- I see you have reverted to your normal style of personal insult and abuse. Nothing that merits a response.

[Ice_Eagle]

Oh Lord.. there both mine. 2048 with the 24bit .dll's. And no, not an enlarged 1024 template. Just demonstrating that I'm talentless.

[asheshouse]

So where is the proof that Max "ripped off" your textures?