24.11.2007, 19:20
My take on this: this site seems to consist largely of former/current Ubi members - most of whom were keen to discuss the possibilities of the mod with others - this turned out to be impossible on the Ubi forums due to the instantaneous flaming attacks/bans. We needed a place where we could discuss these things in relative peace, and here we are. We seem to be mainly a group who would like to see how much more we can do with IL2 within the boundaries of the game engine - we want more flyables - hell, I want 'em all flyable! 
....but we do stand on a cliff edge with regards cheating/changing FM/DM's, etc. It's just one small step away, and we should acknowledge that, and hence I think some form of code/intent would only be a good thing, albeit really just paying lip-service. It'll only take one person, who can be linked to this site as having cheated, and that will bring us all into disrepute. This much we need to accept, and do our best to prevent.
Honestly, I think it's only a matter of time before some twat goes and figures out how to change FM's, etc, and then goes on a virtual joyride/killing spree. Can we stop this? prob'ly not. Can we do our best to discourage this? I hope so...at least, at the moment, it is actively discouraged, and I think that's about the best we can do for now...
I was a bit disappointed at some of the initial responses to BearCat's visit here, guys, believe me, he is one of the few who really has the sim's best interest at heart, and is prepared to check out both sides of the story without having a go at anyone. He's one of the more level-headed moderators over at Ubi, and deserved a bit more respect, IMHO.
No crying over spilt milk, I think he's still checking things out here, and realises that he was the victim of a knee-jerk reaction. He is one of the good guys, maybe one of the few who could help 'us' and 'them' to find some peaceful solution to this debate. And yes, saying us and them is wrong. I am one of us and one of them, so it's still 'we', I guess.
For years, the Ubi forum has been like a second home to me, but over recent months it has taken a bit of a turn for the worse. That, I largely blame Ubi and even Oleg for. No updates or patches is one thing. Not a SINGLE comment regards development, schedules, release dates, etc. is another. ABSOLUTE SILENCE is the worst, and the current situation can be directly accrued to this. I'm not saying they OWE us anything, but this is what happens when you start something, and then just leave it hanging...
Anyway, enough from me for now. Let's hope we can find some happy solution to this whole debate...
cheers m8's
....but we do stand on a cliff edge with regards cheating/changing FM/DM's, etc. It's just one small step away, and we should acknowledge that, and hence I think some form of code/intent would only be a good thing, albeit really just paying lip-service. It'll only take one person, who can be linked to this site as having cheated, and that will bring us all into disrepute. This much we need to accept, and do our best to prevent.Honestly, I think it's only a matter of time before some twat goes and figures out how to change FM's, etc, and then goes on a virtual joyride/killing spree. Can we stop this? prob'ly not. Can we do our best to discourage this? I hope so...at least, at the moment, it is actively discouraged, and I think that's about the best we can do for now...
I was a bit disappointed at some of the initial responses to BearCat's visit here, guys, believe me, he is one of the few who really has the sim's best interest at heart, and is prepared to check out both sides of the story without having a go at anyone. He's one of the more level-headed moderators over at Ubi, and deserved a bit more respect, IMHO.
No crying over spilt milk, I think he's still checking things out here, and realises that he was the victim of a knee-jerk reaction. He is one of the good guys, maybe one of the few who could help 'us' and 'them' to find some peaceful solution to this debate. And yes, saying us and them is wrong. I am one of us and one of them, so it's still 'we', I guess.
For years, the Ubi forum has been like a second home to me, but over recent months it has taken a bit of a turn for the worse. That, I largely blame Ubi and even Oleg for. No updates or patches is one thing. Not a SINGLE comment regards development, schedules, release dates, etc. is another. ABSOLUTE SILENCE is the worst, and the current situation can be directly accrued to this. I'm not saying they OWE us anything, but this is what happens when you start something, and then just leave it hanging...
Anyway, enough from me for now. Let's hope we can find some happy solution to this whole debate...
cheers m8's