[mrbingle]

MrBingle, its simply not going to happen I'm afraid... If you wish to learn, trail and error is your best bet. Or try to catch up with someone that knows how. I know Slow for example has taken a couple under his wing... you just need to find someone thats willing to take you on as a protoge.

Sounds like a clique to me..i dont do closed shops either as 1 of the lucky 2 b accepted or the mass that are turned away! i presume the the same rules apply to the tutor..if he dont wanna teach then u can ask all u like u still wont get taught!..thanks for ur comments Magpie but that mentality is not something i aspire to....so ... trail and error it is for me..again thanks .

Sparty