07.12.2008, 15:31
I absolutely love this!! Thanks to all who contribute.Long Live IL2!!!
Ive been away from Il2 for awhile due to the wobbles effect that Oleg threw into IL2.I see now that its been reduced by a large margin and Im very glad for that to Oleg and company.
Now since we are modding FM's (for new planes) I wantto know if its possible to remove the counter rotation on the single prop planes.
What I mean is that right now when you apply thrust the plane rotates in opposite direction to prop and this amount of rotation is directly related to speed of aircraft and prop speed.This is great as you trim out at various speeds and thrust settings.
But IL2 also has a rotation effect in opposite direction(only in single prop planes) that is not affected by speed or prop speed.This counter rotation is detrimental to the feel of IL2's fm and i cant understand why Oleg decided to add it.Test it by turning off "torque and gyro effects" in difficulty.Youll notice that with no torque or gyro effects the plane still banks heavily,justthat now you dont have the prop speed or the aircraft speed to add forces to it.So your constantly banking at all speeds.
By removing this I theorize that the planes will be more pleasant to handle.This seems to me as possible since you can alter a dual prop plane to not have any of this artificial counter rotation.
IMO just fighting one force in a "sim" is enough as we dont get the feedback that a real pilot does.The stick pulls in your hand when forces change on plane and you can just use more force to counter this.In IL2 Oleg has decided to allow these stick changes even though we cant feel that the stick is now actually pushing your hand in direction plane wants to travel.Same goes for flying straight and pushing rudder left and right.Yes the plane will also bank....BUT youll feel this in your stick and can just add force to counter and do a nice yaw.In Il2 you try to yaw and good luck
Ive been away from Il2 for awhile due to the wobbles effect that Oleg threw into IL2.I see now that its been reduced by a large margin and Im very glad for that to Oleg and company.
Now since we are modding FM's (for new planes) I wantto know if its possible to remove the counter rotation on the single prop planes.
What I mean is that right now when you apply thrust the plane rotates in opposite direction to prop and this amount of rotation is directly related to speed of aircraft and prop speed.This is great as you trim out at various speeds and thrust settings.
But IL2 also has a rotation effect in opposite direction(only in single prop planes) that is not affected by speed or prop speed.This counter rotation is detrimental to the feel of IL2's fm and i cant understand why Oleg decided to add it.Test it by turning off "torque and gyro effects" in difficulty.Youll notice that with no torque or gyro effects the plane still banks heavily,justthat now you dont have the prop speed or the aircraft speed to add forces to it.So your constantly banking at all speeds.
By removing this I theorize that the planes will be more pleasant to handle.This seems to me as possible since you can alter a dual prop plane to not have any of this artificial counter rotation.
IMO just fighting one force in a "sim" is enough as we dont get the feedback that a real pilot does.The stick pulls in your hand when forces change on plane and you can just use more force to counter this.In IL2 Oleg has decided to allow these stick changes even though we cant feel that the stick is now actually pushing your hand in direction plane wants to travel.Same goes for flying straight and pushing rudder left and right.Yes the plane will also bank....BUT youll feel this in your stick and can just add force to counter and do a nice yaw.In Il2 you try to yaw and good luck