[Kwiatek]

hi guys, i realise the Bf109 is a very treasured plane of the BOB, and seeing a Bf109E-3 would be fantastic (it did have a cannon through engine although often removed/ overheating).

However the Bf109E-4 was converted from the E-3 simply by removing the cannon in hub, making a few structural improvements and maybe changing cockpit design which could be done in a few days.

This happened. Of several hundred units of Bf109E-3's that were in fact the largest produced of the Emil variant, they were 90% of them upgraded either before or during the early months of the Battle of Britain to E-4 standard (July - September) of 1940. This was to prepare them of the offensive over Britain and the fighting to ensue.

There were basically no performance differences except for maybe a few mph added in the E-4, which was probably reduced by structural improvments anyway.

I would like to see a Bf 109E-3 however as i think the E-4 in game is not as parallel in performance to the Spitfire Mk 1 (Mod) as i want.

Check out this link for my performance guide on the net for the Bf109E-3/E-4 Vs Spitfire MK IA:
http://rapidshare.com/files/112230613/F ... 9.doc.html

These link doesnt work

I made some reserch about Bf 109 E perfomance but its hard to find really how fast was E model at the deck. At the Kurfurst site about 109 i find that according to some test speed at sea level was from 467-500 km/h:

109 E-1 manual : ( with DB 601 Aa - 1175 hp)
sea level - 500 km/h
5 km - 570 km/h
7,5km - 550 km/h

http://kurfurst.allaboutwarfare.com/Per ... ibung.html

109 V15 prototype: near the same as above

http://www.kurfurst.org/Performance_tes ... blatt6.jpg

Swiss test:
sea level - 465 km/h-472 km/h
5km - 565 km/h

http://kurfurst.allaboutwarfare.com/Per ... _J347.html

France test:
sea level - ~480 km/h
5 km - 570 km/h ( radiator closed)

http://kurfurst.allaboutwarfare.com/Per ... anceT.html

German test 109 E-3 - with MG FF and without

sea level - 467 km/h

http://kurfurst.allaboutwarfare.com/Per ... feb39.html

It must be noted that these test was done with pre BoB 109 E which didnt have armour plate behind the pilot and armoured windscreen.

Its really hard to find how fast was Bf109 E-3 or E-4 from BOB time - with armour plate and armoured windsreen.

In Il2 4.08 BF 109 E-4 reach:

sea level - 475 km/h
5 km - 560 km/h
7.5 km - 535 km/h !

So i think it will be good if someone at least make it in right way acoording with good proof and references. Soon we will have great Chanel Map and it would be nice have Bf 109E, Spitfire MK I and Hurrciane MK I with reliable performance.