29.03.2009, 06:53
Karaya Wrote:I guess you mean the G-2, not the G-6!
The G-6 has been a DOG ever since its introduction to the sim and hasnt improved much from there. Both versions are undermodelled in practically every performance category. They are both around 10km/h too slow at altitude, their climb rate is much lower than should be, especially in relation to other aircraft such as the Spit IX, La5 and even the G-2 that was just 70kg lighter in real life. Their best turn time is ~2secs higher than the real thing and ~2.5 secs higher than the G-2 which again is just 70kg lighter! Actually the G-6 turns on default loadout ingame like a gondola equipped machine.
People always keep saying that the G-2 is overmodelled or even a UFO but when looking at real life performance numbers it is one of or even THE most accurately modelled Bf109 ingame!
Real life top speed after russian tests: 666km/h at altitude
Ingame: 666km/h
Real life turntime after russian tests: 20.0-20.5 secs
Ingame: 20.6
So where's that overmodelled!? Its just that the G6 is HOPELESSLY undermodelled and some of the other 109s are also undermodelled in various performance characteristic (109F turntimes for example)
Its nice to have now slot corrected planes like for e.x Bf109 but i have many bad feeling about these. I read what you post about G-2 and i cant agree with you in 100%.
Why?
Fisrstly G-2 in game is underweight not by 70 kg as you wrote but by 200-250 kg. Its even ligher then 109 F-2 which is totaly wrong. Thats way G-2 in game handling is better then F moddel which shouldn't be. I remeber in old Il2 Sturmovik that F-4 was better in handling and turn then G-2 and these was correct. Unfortunately in Il2 1946 G-2 is better in these way then F-4.
Second you must know and should write here that initialy 109 G model was cleared only for 1.3 Ata so its perfomance was restricted - See Finish test. Clearance for 1.42 Ata wasn't before mid 1943.
So truly there should be 2 version of G-2:
G-2 early ( 1942) - with 1.32 Ata (1310 KM)
0km - 525 km/h
6.7 km ~ 649 km/h
climb rate 21 m/s
G-2 late(1943) - with 1.42 Ata (1475KM) and better performance
Of course both of them should have wegiht corrected for ~ 3050 kg instead 2830 kg like now.
http://kurfurst.org/Performance_tests/1 ... le_EN.html
Probalby some German test initialy was made with 1.42 Ata so thats why they achived 660 km/h at FH but after problems in front line with serial engines that was restricted for 1.3 Ata.
That was reason of dead German Ace Joahim Marsilie - he had to balied out beacuse his engine got fire. German after found engine problems in early 109 G models resricted it for 1.3 Ata only. That was canceled in mid 1943.