[Karaya]

Its nice to have now slot corrected planes like for e.x Bf109 but i have many bad feeling about these. I read what you post about G-2 and i cant agree with you in 100%.

Why?

Fisrstly G-2 in game is underweight not by 70 kg as you wrote but by 200-250 kg. Its even ligher then 109 F-2 which is totaly wrong. Thats way G-2 in game handling is better then F moddel which shouldn't be. I remeber in old Il2 Sturmovik that F-4 was better in handling and turn then G-2 and these was correct. Unfortunately in Il2 1946 G-2 is better in these way then F-4.

Again, how does this prove that the G-2 is overmodelled!? Its more likely actually that the Bf109Fs are undermodelled. Afterall their turntimes are in the 20sec region unlike in real life where they were somewhere in the lower 19secs! And I've already proven that the G-2 matches its real life turn time almost exactly (20.5 real vs 20.6 ingame)

Putting real life data into the game doesnt necessarily mean that what you get out of the sim engine matches real life specs as well. Adjusting weight on the G-2 was just a simple method of getting closer to real life performance figures.

There are lots of similar examples like the G-2, however the 109 gets much more bull for being "underweight" for some reason or another.

Have a look at the Spits for example, each model is a good 100-200kg lighter than in real life. Do we see anybody moaning about that? No! As long as they hit realistic performances its all good and fine. The G-2 is too light ingame but matches real life data, case closed for me. The G-6 on the other hand does not out of various reasons (weight, engine,...).

Second you must know and should write here that initialy 109 G model was cleared only for 1.3 Ata so its perfomance was restricted - See Finish test. Clearance for 1.42 Ata wasn't before mid 1943.

So truly there should be 2 version of G-2:
G-2 early ( 1942) - with 1.32 Ata (1310 KM)
0km - 525 km/h
6.7 km ~ 649 km/h
climb rate 21 m/s

G-2 late(1943) - with 1.42 Ata (1475KM) and better performance

Of course both of them should have wegiht corrected for ~ 3050 kg instead 2830 kg like now.

http://kurfurst.org/Performance_tests/1 ... le_EN.html

Probalby some German test initialy was made with 1.42 Ata so thats why they achived 660 km/h at FH but after problems in front line with serial engines that was restricted for 1.3 Ata.
That was reason of dead German Ace Joahim Marsilie - he had to balied out beacuse his engine got fire. German after found engine problems in early 109 G models resricted it for 1.3 Ata only. That was canceled in mid 1943.

Did you actually read what I wrote?

It was a SOVIET test of a Bf109G-2, carried out with and without gondolas at 1.3ata, so ~1310 PS at takeoff.

Attained topspeed was 666km/h at 7000m

1.3ata!

I dont know exactly what the topspeed for a G-2 with 1.42ata boost DB605A is but I think I remember that projected performance was near the 680km/h mark

I do know that 1.42ata operation was prohibited until late 1943 but our ingame G-2 is a 1.3ata bird already, even thought the ata gauge says differently but then again it shows incorrect boost pressures on the 109Fs as well (1.42 but 1.3 performance)