05.04.2009, 07:57
Karaya Wrote:Test Pilot Wrote:Ad.1
"Note how it says "Steig- und Kampfleistung"? That clearly shows that these tests were NOT performed at WEP which is referred to in German as "Start- und Notleistung"! So 650km/h at non-Wep can easily be 666km/h at WEP...
And there is a "Steig/Kampf" and "Start/Not" rating for both 1.3ata and 1.42ata meaning that "Start/Not" at 1.3ata does not relate to 1.42ata effectively. "
You know that until med 1943 Db605A was derated to 1.3 Ata - which mean "Steig- und Kampfleistung"
So 1.42 Ata ("Start- und Notleistung") was not allowed until mid 1943.
So real performance of G-2 in 1942 and Bf 109 G-6 early ( 1943) was 1.3 Ata only - as its is in trials which i present.
As I said there is a "Steig/Kampf" and "Start/Not" Rating for both 1.3 and 1.42ata, think of it as 100% and 110% ingame.
As far as these notes lead the test was flown at 1.3ata and "Steig/Kampf" Leistung
1.3ata "Start/Not" is NOT 1.42ata!
Quote:Ad.2
Look the same charts. There is 109 G-5 with Db605A clered only for 1.3 Ata
These plane reach :
0 km - 495 km/h
6.5km - 625 km/h
My fault, didnt see the MW-50 mentioned as I only saw DB605A up there and expected a DB605AM for MW-50 use.
Either way, the 495km/h and 625km/h is again ONLY for "Steig/Kampf" Leistung, not for "Start/Not" which is not given in that particular test for whatever reason.
You are still wrong Karaya. I know that you are 109 lover but you really face of the truth. Note that i showed only German Data and Charts for 109 not RAF, American, Russian test. So:
There weren't 2 settings for Db 605 A - "Steig/Kampf" and "Start/Not" Rating for both 1.3 Ata and 1.42 Ata
Just "Steig/Kampf" was 1.3 Ata and"Start/Not" was 1.42 Ata.
In 1942 and 1943 early 1.42 Ata ("Start/Not") just was blocked in Db 605A due to engine problems
You really should read more carrefully avialable charts and data:
From German charts:
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"Die angegebenen Leistungen beziehen sich auf Kampf- und Steigleistung, d.h. n = 2600 U/min; PLade = 1,3 ata. Start- und Notleistung ist f