[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

take this to the PM's before the thread is locked for going OT...

I don't see this topic as being strayed to the degree that it is going "OT" so far it's still a healthy discussion about convergence with all of our resident experts... :?:

it looked like could devolve into an argument rather than a historical debate. As it is, it didn't, but still.