[Alighieri]

i got a Logitech extreme 3D pro, its not extremly expansive, and its a good this to have whilst saving for a bigger & better one, it doesnt have suction cups, but the base with its low counter-wheight make it not hvy 2 move for transport, but gives good stability

http://images.google.nl/images?q=logite ... =nl&tab=wi
(i know its a bit a straight forward google search, but gives a fast view how the joystick looks like)