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ok then i need to kno if the ultrapack v2.01 will give me all unflyable planes so i can get the silver plate thing included
also can someone give me links to the other ultrapacks/mods i need before i download ultrapack v2.01

I thought UltraPack 2.01 came with the SilverPlate B29?

Do a QUICK MISSION and make sure it is not already listed as a plane you can fly before you try and DL and install it!

As for HSFX 4.1 I know it comes with the SilverPlate B29..

Thus no need to DL and install it..

Whats the differnece between ultrapack and HSFX?

The difference between HSFX MOD PACK vs. the UltraPack MOD PACK..

You can think of HSFX as the minimum mod pack and UltraPack as the maximum mod pack..

By maximum I mean nearly every mod that was aval at that time was included, read no real ryme or reason or standard, just stick it in there and re-packaged ALL those individual mods into one of the standard IL-2 SFS file format, the Prego Italian Sauces aproach to mods - it's in there..

By minimum I mean a group of mod makers sat down and decided what where the best and or most popular mods most, if not everyone, would have to have. And they did extensive testing to ensure one mod did not conflict with another mond. Once the set of mods was agreed upon and tested they re-packaged those individual mods into one of the standard IL-2 SFS file format..

The purpose for re-packaging individual mods into a SFS file is to speed up the game load/start times..

In that each individual mod you add will cause the game to take longer to load/start..

You can download and add additional mods to HSFX and UltrPack..

In that there are allways new mods comming out all the time so you need that option..

But those mods are typically not in the SFS file format and therefore will cause you game to load/start slower..

So at this point your probably thinking it is a no brainier..

Use UltraPack because it contains more mods, right?

Well there is a down side to that..

In that once you put a mod into the SFS file format it is very hard if not imposable to remove them!

Where as with the mods you download and install yourself you can turn the on and off at will..

A perfect example of that was the highly detailed P-51 and P47 cockpits by Freddy..

HSFX decided to NOT include it in thier MOD PACK thus giving the user the option to DL and install it seperatly..

Where as UltraPack decided to include it in thier MOD PACK thus making the decision for the user..

For folks with UltraPack and a really good PC there was no problem..

But for those folks UltraPack and older PCs with older video cards the new highly detailed cockpits caused a big FPS hit (read slide show)..

And since they were part of UltraPacks SFS files you could not disable them like you could a mod that you downloaded and installed yourself..

I think the latest version of UltraPack removed those highly detailed cockpits and made them a separate download for the user to install..

Just like HSFX did from the start..

That is just one example of why it is not allays a good thing to include the kitchen sink into a MOD PACK!

IMHO things like individual mods beyond the min set are better left to the end user to try out and than decide if he wants to use/keep them or not..

So if your the type of person that is not good an installing mods..

And by that I mean you don’t know how to navigate to the installation of your game directory let alone add files to it, than your probably better off using UltraPack and just hope that you like all the mods they decided to put into it..

But if you do know how to find the installation of your game on your hard drive and you know how to unzip files and your the type that likes to pick and choose the mods you want to use, than I would recommend you use HSFX.

Well I was Thinking, If i ever wanted to stop using the ultrapack and wanted to change couldnt i reinstall my game becase i have a copy of it on a disk
P.S. Im a person who doesnt currently have the unflyable planes, im looking for the easyest mod to install that gives me those unflyable planes,
would the origonal ultrapack v2.01 for game versiobn v4.09 work for me?
also before i put on ultrapack v2.01 can you tell me what other mods or ultrapacks i need?