11.01.2010, 23:38
BO Rittel Wrote:I think you should make two installs and decide for yourself. This isn't exactly an unbiased website you are asking this question on and can lead to a lot of misinformation from guys who haven't flown both, or from guys that have a biased opinion.
I have both.. I have flown both .... and I prefer HSFX.. While it is true that UP is a very good mod pack... based on my preferred aircraft.... and the issues I know to be true that I wont elaborate on here... I decided , along with the rest of the 99th.. to stick with HSFX... No bias here... I thought UP 1.8 was a fantastic piece of work... at first.. but as I flew itg I noticed differences... and there are still things about UP that I prefer... but overall for what I need HSFX 4.1 is more applicable.
=BLW=PabloSniper Wrote:more fights and accusations without evidence?
this is very sad for everyone.
as to which is better, if the UP 2.0 is a refinement of HSFX 4.1, obviously, UP is better.
But I'm not here to defend anyone.
Just answer me one question.
Which the best server in HL?
Which the package MODS he is using?
That is a part of my issue... Just who is UP to refine HSFX? Not only that ... IMO this brings us right back to ... will we or will we not have an unbranded mod pack... ? In order for that to truly happen UP, SAS,AAA & 242 have to agree on what FMs & Dms they will use.. otherwise.. if HSFX comes out with a mod pack... and UP feels that it needs "refinement" then.... there is no unbranded mod pack. If at least the big 4... UP, SAS,AAA and HSFX.. since HSFX has the compiler... and I refuse to even bother using any mod pack that does not have HSFX in it... as far as I am concerned the days of the 3.5 minute loads are DONE for me. If I have to accept a particular FM whether I like it fully or not.. then I am williong to do so... and all things being as they are ... if DT comes out with something that can resecure the FMs & DMs then I just might go back to stock... but I have grown used to 6DoF.. and the mod maps.... I like the work of Guse & crew on the new Mustangs.. and frankly I don't think they needed any "refining" .... So there it is.. for me at least.... I see no point in using a mod pack that contains a mod pack ... and some more stuff.. I would rather get the original mod pack...
8FS_Bulau Wrote:megalopsuche Wrote:UP2 screwed with the stock dm's and fm's. That's a line that should have never been crossed.Hades has categorically stated, on AAA forum, that UP did not do any of that:
If I'm going to settle on any mod it's hsfx.
StG77_HaDeS Wrote:So hear it first hand:
The UP 2.0 has not modified any Stock-Flyable (Oleg-made) plane. The UP 2.0 has not modified any Stock weapons.
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Yes but IMO they should not have modified any aircraft without giving it a new slot.. To modify an aircraft's FM or DM... any aircraft's FM/DM that was not created by UP and to reinsert it as XYZ aircraft even if you believe you are correcting a flaw is wrong.
Period.
The creators of that mod aircraft made it to whatever standards they made it to.. and it should be up to the mod user to decide which one he prefers to use... and it is up to the modders.. to make sure that they do not step on each other's toes...
Not only that... You can't compare plane vs plane specs.... You need to take the performance data for a given aircraft... and compare the modded aircraft to that data and let the plane vs plane issues be worked out by the pilots... because the pilot was a huge factor in plane vs plane issues.. technically Boyington should have gotten waxed.. On paper there are clear advantages in aircraft... but the pilots make thye difference.. so you cant mod aircraft for "balance" etc...
I decided to go with HSFX after switching to UP 1.8 because I noticed differences between the DMs & FMs of certain planes between UI 1.2 and UP 1.8, and my primary goal was to get 4.09m compatible in order to fascilitate the change from anythuing other than the latest official patch.. which IMO is what we all should be striving to do.
None of us should forget that, while we do have mods and they are not going away, and yes I think they are a good thing for the sim, we must not forget that 1C made the sim.. not AAA... not SAA... not UP... not C6.... not 242... and we should try to always keep this sim moving towards working off of whatever official version of the sim there is....
That of course is just my opinion.