17.02.2010, 03:50
Ace , some ideas :
first : the first problem is your are from the beginning talking again and again about the roc , but you have forgotten a FM is not only the roc .... A wrong roc is a problem , yes , but if the roc is correct and all the rest is wrong it s a big problem for your FM ....
Second : I understand you have make tests with the first mod ( Corea 1.1 ) and it s hard for you to make new tests with the new mod ( 1.3 ), but if you want to talk , you ll have to do that , and with honnesty , cause all your results from the first 1.1 mod are totaly wrong with the 1.3 ...
Third : the curves you are claiming as correct ( understand same as a real F-86 ) about your mod ( understand the hsfx default F-86) are clearly not the same we can find when we fly the plane in the simulator ... I m not alone to have found some strange things with the FM in HSFX and UP packs , all the FM for all the planes have changed , and these changes are very important for the jets , making them totaly wrong .... Can you see you can make all the curves you want with your programm , in the simulator it s not what we can find ...
Why ? Somewhere in the tweaked java class , there is a big mistake ....
The result is , and I ll not repeat that again and again , cause the test is very easy to do , the result is my F-86 have lower performances than yours and it s exactly the opposite of what your curves say ... And especialy the roc ...
You can notice that this message is very polite , but I don t want to repeat again and again the same things .... As said before I m not alone to have found all of that , and please remember that :
And he s talking here about your F-86 , not mine .... About mine , you are free to ask him what he think ( I know the answer ...)
You have to know , he have worked with Oleg and worked too in some important projects with other simulators .... :wink:
You are free to ignore the real test from real pilots and to keep just your curves , but the result is not very good ....
At last , you are free to not agree with me , but I d just like you stop spaming this thread , I ve never gone in others threads about F-86 mods to spam their work ...
first : the first problem is your are from the beginning talking again and again about the roc , but you have forgotten a FM is not only the roc .... A wrong roc is a problem , yes , but if the roc is correct and all the rest is wrong it s a big problem for your FM ....
Second : I understand you have make tests with the first mod ( Corea 1.1 ) and it s hard for you to make new tests with the new mod ( 1.3 ), but if you want to talk , you ll have to do that , and with honnesty , cause all your results from the first 1.1 mod are totaly wrong with the 1.3 ...
Third : the curves you are claiming as correct ( understand same as a real F-86 ) about your mod ( understand the hsfx default F-86) are clearly not the same we can find when we fly the plane in the simulator ... I m not alone to have found some strange things with the FM in HSFX and UP packs , all the FM for all the planes have changed , and these changes are very important for the jets , making them totaly wrong .... Can you see you can make all the curves you want with your programm , in the simulator it s not what we can find ...
Why ? Somewhere in the tweaked java class , there is a big mistake ....
The result is , and I ll not repeat that again and again , cause the test is very easy to do , the result is my F-86 have lower performances than yours and it s exactly the opposite of what your curves say ... And especialy the roc ...
You can notice that this message is very polite , but I don t want to repeat again and again the same things .... As said before I m not alone to have found all of that , and please remember that :
Quote:It's Great to have the MiG-15 into this but the FM is very wrong.. it need correction
Quote:Just tested the F86.. C'mon please you got to fix this.. insanely bad..
Quote:Simple, I flew in MiG15, 17 Yak9's etc.. in RL ..From a real Mig15 pilot ....
And he s talking here about your F-86 , not mine .... About mine , you are free to ask him what he think ( I know the answer ...)
You have to know , he have worked with Oleg and worked too in some important projects with other simulators .... :wink:
You are free to ignore the real test from real pilots and to keep just your curves , but the result is not very good ....
At last , you are free to not agree with me , but I d just like you stop spaming this thread , I ve never gone in others threads about F-86 mods to spam their work ...