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Why go on about UP1.8 surely this is now redundant/dragging on old issues which have long passed... UP is now on its second generation of 2.0,

Well for several reasons

One to dispel the myth that UltraPack has the most accurate flight models

Two to show that anyone can make a mistake

A perfect example being the 51Ds in UP1.8

UP1.8 timeline wise, the guys over at UltraPack thought they had a more accurate flight model

So much so that they posted a thread at UltraPack stating such (which was strangly del this week)

But somewhere between that statement and the release of UP2.0 they changed 'back' to settings more like the original HSFX4.1 flight model

Which only highlights the need provide proof along with such claims IMHO!

In that in the process of gathering up the proof

They might have realized their mistake

And never make such a claim

Thus saving them the embarrassment of having to eat their words later

And revert back to a flight model in UP2.0 that is more like the original HSFX4.1 that they were calling UFOish just a few days prior

That is to say, just because someone claims to have the most realistic flight model does not mean much unless they provide proof of it

And just posting a link to some real world test data is not what I call proof

In that you will be hard pressed to find real world data that matches up perfectly to a plane in IL2

Most of the time you will have to make some assumptions about some aspects of the test and sometimes flat out deviate from the results

And when you do you should list your assumptions and deviations

For others to review

Unless you think you know it all and can not be bothered with sharing your thought process with the little people!

Which is exactly why I post all my assumptions, deviations and adjustments

In that I don't have all the answers!

Granted right now I don't have that link ready, in that, per request, I switched from using real world P51B data to adjusted real world P51D data

But as an example, here is a link to my old write up

Orginal Write up for P51B case

I am currently working on the new write up and will post it once it is done

Long story short

I don't think I should have to walk on egg shells about quoting something someone said in fear that it might bring up old issues long past

I think the caution should reside with the people who made the unfounded claims that I am referring to

Thus saving me from ever having to point the out later

Again

No one is perfect

No one is beyond making mistakes

No one should take anyones word for how realistic something is

Not even me!

It is always up to the reader to decided which is best

And I think the fully disclosed method is the best way to do it

In that in putting it all out there you open it up for review and thus stand a good chance of catching you errors sooner

Which in turn results in a better flight sim for all of us