23.03.2010, 18:40
Very useful debate here, for AKA_Mountain and the readers, Axial, thank you.
In regards to your last post, we are actually in agreement on most points. Bear with me as I apply more light to the situation.
1) Benchmarking highest Frames Per Second only reveals part of the bigger picture. For a fact, one graphic card could be about the same in FPS as another and the image quality and stuttering amount could be quite noticeable in difference between the two. This is because hardware must use algorithms with the drivers to render an image. Putting a scene into motion increases the complexity by not just a squared factor. Because we are focused on simulation 3D motion graphics, the complexity is increase by a cube factor. ( Cube = a x b x c, or x to the third power )
Bottom line: Quality is more important, overall, then having hundreds more FPS. In this sense, most of the latest ATI and NVIDIA graphic cards do just fine. The mind only perceives FPS upto about 60, anyway. If ATI has a card that does 275 FPS compared to an NVIDIA with 175 FPS, then that is simply only overkill as far as IL-2. If a guy is only going to use his computer for IL-2 gaming, then the cheapest high performance graphic card should do justice.
2) NVIDIA driver issues have basically been resolved for IL-2. ATI issues exist with their latest drivers as far as IL-2 is concerned.
3) Storm of War will create a whole new league for consideration. I say wait a few months for both NVIDIA next generation DirectX 11 ( This means new graphic card architecture and drivers, Axial :wink: ). No one presently knows how both ATI and NVIDIA DirectX 11 cards will render Storm of War. There could be huge surprises for both ATI and NVIDIA users.
4) Realiable tests on ATI and NVIDIA stock ( not overclocked ) cards show about the same reliablility over the last couple years. Heat failure hysteria was a reaction to overclocking failure. I already posted a topic at AAA recently about the gigantic lawsuit currently engaged against Intel for faking overclocking. ATI had their own lawsuit for faking benchmarks a while back.
Axial, we're in this together. I want to help. You must keep the bigger picture in mind or you will lose objectivity.
By the way, I started a help topic called " Laptops and IL-2 " where I discuss issues which are relevant here. I gave AKA_Mountain the link to the notebookcheck website even before you posted your last reply, because I wanted to share the website that I have been using for years.
Don't believe every overclock test and the claims. These have and can be faked. Quality is more important than FPS when the FPS is more than needed anyway.
In regards to your last post, we are actually in agreement on most points. Bear with me as I apply more light to the situation.
1) Benchmarking highest Frames Per Second only reveals part of the bigger picture. For a fact, one graphic card could be about the same in FPS as another and the image quality and stuttering amount could be quite noticeable in difference between the two. This is because hardware must use algorithms with the drivers to render an image. Putting a scene into motion increases the complexity by not just a squared factor. Because we are focused on simulation 3D motion graphics, the complexity is increase by a cube factor. ( Cube = a x b x c, or x to the third power )
Bottom line: Quality is more important, overall, then having hundreds more FPS. In this sense, most of the latest ATI and NVIDIA graphic cards do just fine. The mind only perceives FPS upto about 60, anyway. If ATI has a card that does 275 FPS compared to an NVIDIA with 175 FPS, then that is simply only overkill as far as IL-2. If a guy is only going to use his computer for IL-2 gaming, then the cheapest high performance graphic card should do justice.
2) NVIDIA driver issues have basically been resolved for IL-2. ATI issues exist with their latest drivers as far as IL-2 is concerned.
3) Storm of War will create a whole new league for consideration. I say wait a few months for both NVIDIA next generation DirectX 11 ( This means new graphic card architecture and drivers, Axial :wink: ). No one presently knows how both ATI and NVIDIA DirectX 11 cards will render Storm of War. There could be huge surprises for both ATI and NVIDIA users.
4) Realiable tests on ATI and NVIDIA stock ( not overclocked ) cards show about the same reliablility over the last couple years. Heat failure hysteria was a reaction to overclocking failure. I already posted a topic at AAA recently about the gigantic lawsuit currently engaged against Intel for faking overclocking. ATI had their own lawsuit for faking benchmarks a while back.
Axial, we're in this together. I want to help. You must keep the bigger picture in mind or you will lose objectivity.
By the way, I started a help topic called " Laptops and IL-2 " where I discuss issues which are relevant here. I gave AKA_Mountain the link to the notebookcheck website even before you posted your last reply, because I wanted to share the website that I have been using for years.
Don't believe every overclock test and the claims. These have and can be faked. Quality is more important than FPS when the FPS is more than needed anyway.