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ACE-OF-ACES Wrote:Whoops!

I thought you were being sarcastic when you said the Ta183 would be operational!

My bad

I now see your serious!

That is the problem with sights like wiki and Luft46.com

Folks see a few fake blue prints and they think the plane was just moments away from flying

About the only thing the 183 did beyond a doodle on the back of a napkin was to make a wooden wind tunnel model

Which is light years away from a flyable test model let alone production model

All in all the Ta183 in it's current state in the game had about as much chance of flying as the Learch

NONE!

Thee_oddball of original author Wrote:The first flight of the aircraft was projected for May 1945
Yes and I think Hitler also projected that he would invade England by the summer of 41 :lol:

Quote:Development of the Ta 183 started as early as 1942 as Project VI, when the engineer Hans Multhopp assembled a team to design a new fighter, based on his understanding that previous Focke-Wulf design studies for jet fighters had no chance of reaching fruition because none had the potential for transonic speeds. The aircraft was intended to use the advanced Heinkel HeS 011 turbojet, although the first prototypes were to be powered by the Junkers Jumo 004B. Early studies also included an optional 1,000 kgf (10 kN) thrust rocket engine for takeoff and combat boost, fuel for up to 200 seconds of burn time stored in drop tanks under the wings.

HE162

Quote:The requirement was issued 10 September 1944, with basic designs to be returned within 10 days and to start large scale production by 1 January 1945. Because the winner of the new lightweight fighter design would be building huge numbers of the planes, nearly every German aircraft manufacturer expressed interest in the project. However, Heinkel had already been working on a series of "paper projects" for light single-engine fighters over the last year under the designation P.1073, with most design work being completed by Professor Benz, and had gone so far as to build and test several models and conduct some wind tunnel testing

Both he 162 and 183 were "paper projects" with the difference being that there were a few models of the 162 for wind tunnel testing



Quote:The plane was in the air within an astoundingly short period of time: the design was chosen on 25 September and first flew on 6 December, less than 90 days later.[/u].


Quote:By the time of the German unconditional surrender on 8 May 1945, 120 He 162s had been delivered; a further 200 had been completed and were awaiting collection or flight-testing; and about 600 more were in various stages of production.

within a 6 month period they went from wind tunnel to producing 320 he162's now what do you think might have happened if the Germans had till April of 1946 to develop the 183? its a safe bet that they would beginning or already into flight tests , and then there is the Messerschmidt P.1101 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_P.1101 which (if the info is correct) had an %80 complete prototype by wars end









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