REALISM RATING of the HSFX 4.1 Bf-109K-4
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BillSwagger Wrote:Hey look, i can "snip and clip" too.
What you want a cookie?

BillSwagger Wrote:Ever more reason to show me some respect and stop treating me like a half wit, telling me i need to read things twice.
That is your theory

And it like the rest is in error

Here is the real deal

There are ignorant people in this world

But ignorant does not mean you incapable of learning things (read stupid or halfwit)

It just means you have not been exposed to the info yet

What defines a stupid (read halfwit) is someone who has been exposed to something but they are still not capable of learning it

There is another case between those two types

A person that has been exposed to the info, but is so closed minded (read thinks they are right so they don't listen anymore) that the apear to be stupid

I for one think you are one of those types

Your not stupid

In that you could learn

Your just not willing to open your mind to the posibility that you are wrong

BillSwagger Wrote:Time line wise, i read it a week or so ago when you first posted it. Then it was brought to my attention again by other people that read it.

I've read it three or four times and still can't find a bibliography or reference material,

nor are the methods for flight stipulated.

It just gives the game settings.
Well your never going to get a bibliogrphy

Your wrong about the reference material, it is in there

But for you Ill take what I have from the FM ANALYSIS documents and put it into the REALISM RATING documents that explanes the in-game data obtained using the zINFOMOD

The same mod that is used to generate the data files for IL2Compare

But that is besides the point

The point your trying to avoid here is the one I made

You were commenting on things you had not even read yet

In that it was not until after you commented on it that you figrued out how to click on the link to read the pdf file

BillSwagger Wrote:Its not a bad job either ace, and my only challenge was really only

related to the reference material.

I have yet to even touch on your methods, and at this point its probably a waste of time to do so.
Promise?

Because to be honest I dont see any value in the two of us talking about any aspect of this further

Your goinng to belive what you want to belive no mater how many times I show you your mistakes

Thus I am pretty much done trying

So lets just agree to disagree

You go your way and Ill go mine

Deal?

BillSwagger Wrote:Actually, that doesn't bother me so much,
That is good beacuse I don't see any value in your theories

BillSwagger Wrote:only that your giving your theories more weight for the comparison you are making.

I never actually disagreed with your theory that you

used to back the comparison you were making.
Whoops

It looks like your still confusing 'compare' with 'theory'

Scroll up and re-read the definitions I gave you

BillSwagger Wrote:I simply offered that more information is needed

to make an accurate comparison.
Agreed you have offered nothing but theories

That is to say you have provided nothing to support your theory that more info is needed

It is just a gut feeling that you have that is based on nothing at all

BillSwagger Wrote:You also admit this in the text of the comparison.

Quote:Than I would have someone to kick some ideas around with

sounds great, but wouldn't you need to take them seriously?
Ah, I see the problem here

You think tossing out silly theories should be taking seriously!

That is just not how it works in the real world

You come up with a theory

Than you do the research to find info that supports your theory

Any dimwit can say "Hey what about sun spots, they might have an effect on the top speed of the plane"

To which I would say

That is a neat theory

Now what data or info do you have to support that theory?

So it should be clear to you now

If you wanto to be taken seriosly

Your going to have to do more than what you have done thus far

SAVVY?

BillSwagger Wrote:Actually, i have more information for you,

but if your gonna air it out over the public forum then

why would i share any private thought with Ace of Aces.
Proving you wrong in public

only does more damage to the reputation of the game, not you Aces.
If belivng that helps you get to sleep at night

So be it

No skin off my back

But the fact remains that the link you provided as proff that HSFX has modified the stock FMs makes no mention of HSFS modifying the stock FMs

So one has to wonder where you got that idea from

In that it was clearly not from reading the link you provided

BillSwagger Wrote:I hope your not gonna hold a grudge now that this thread lies in rubble. (sarcasm)

Pluss, this is no way to have a conversation,

"snip and clip" trolling is bottom of barrel when it comes to talking on forums.

good day
Trust me when I say I feel no since of loss with the idea of you leaving the topic at hand

If anything I am going to have alot of spare time to type/talk to people who have an open mind

Instead of trying to get you to open yours

Take care

And good luck
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