[LuckyOne]

Well, in my opinion it is still a beast of an aircraft in Il-2, a real killer.

I would say that any a/c with two canons and four MG is a real killer.

we see an idealised version of the Luftwaffe aircraft in Il-2 as well.

heresy...

because I don't think that anyone would want to fly the Luftwaffe aircraft if they were simulated to be of poor fit and in poor repair with C3 fuel rarely available,

Well,Oleg already know that too,who will buy the Air sim game with realistic performance of Allied a/c,who will play it on line if you know that in reality German a/c was far away from uber by all means.Answer to that is to artificially equalize a/c in game performance.Oleg also occasionally tested the mood of Il2 community with patches,I remember,2005/6 I think,when blue pilots make such a fuss about "uber Spitfire" and "uber Mustang" and uber this or that... blue side,start to build a pressure on Oleg,via forums,complaining that Axis plains should bee a way better than anything flown by reds.And then,in next patch Oleg correct some tings in favor of blue side.Then red side start building pressure on Oleg claiming that red aircraft's have some non historical features and in other patch Oleg correct something else and again blue side complain why blue planes are not uber-crafts and so on,and so on....IL2 game,overall,have Jo-Jo effect in terms of historic performance of aircraft behavior,thanks to the patches we all waiting like water in the desert ....do you remember that "happy" time??

With every new patch,performance of major red a/c was weaken little bit by little bit...unnoticed by community,cause patches was released in reasonable time intervals and it is very hard to notice the differences of a/c behavior immediately.

s always worth remembering that the Luftwaffe had it a lot harder than this game depicts and so there's a much more even balance of power to the aircraft in the game than there was during the later years of the war.

Well,now I ask question...do we want balanced sim or history realistic sim??Or to make two version of sim,one for blue pilots with uber Axis a/c and one for red pilots with uber allied a/c??

This and the very high average quality of blue pilots seems to make some red pilots feel a bit cheated, while personally I think it's brilliant because I prefer the idea of a test of machine vs. machine and pilot vs. pilot under ideal conditions

Clearly you talking about start of WW II when Germans does have high average quality of pilots,but it is not case in 42,43,44,45. And I also support your point of view of machine vs. machine and pilot vs. pilot under ideal conditions...but for that we need a true historic characteristic performing a/c and not artificially balanced ones like this ones.Right??Right.

I have trust in Ace and I believe that he will do a great job.I also have some calculation of mine,and for now,they are closely matched.Anyway,this is Aces profession and he know technical procedure.I will talk when historic maters become an issue.