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I am providing info and he is providing ...?

You really don't consider your opinion on what they might have done 'given more time' as proof do you?

I don't see why he has such a hard time admitting they were ahead of the curve in many ways,a lot of what they were working on has changed the face of conventional warfare permanently, air to air surface to air wired guided missiles cruise missile...there type 21 sub was state of the into the 50's ...etc

Well mostly because most of it is a myth

Take the V2 as a perfect example

Ask most folks that get their info from the Hitler Channel.. I mean the history Channel who invented rockets and most of them will tell you the Germans

When the FACT remains that the Germans copied 20 of Robert Goddards patents from the 1920s and 30s to build the V2

As for cruise missiles

Another myth

In that lobbing a bomb like the V1 at a city with no real idea of where it is going to land is not what I would call a big leap in warfare

And far from guided

And the few other wire guided bombs pail in comparison to the US's radar guided glide bomb of WWII called the BAT

That was used to sink a few big ships in Japan before the end of the war

The BAT is a truly auto guided bomb and the real predecessor to todays cruise missiles

As for subs

Another myth

Not a sub expert but the US subs were far more advanced systems wise

As for the German ABOMB

Another myth

They tried to make an ABOMB and failed

Where as the US succeeded

Splitting atoms is a much harder task that sweeping a wing on a Me262 to account for the change in weight of the bigger than expected engines

And something else you forgot to mention

The B2 flying wing

A lot of Hitler channel types think that too was a copy of the Go229

Not even close!

Jack Northrop was building flying wings as long as if not longer than the Hortons

There was nothing to learn from the Go299 that he didn't already know

So now maybe you can understand why I don't agree with your assessment that the Germans were SO FAR AHEAD AND OR ADVANCED

In that from my point of view based on what I noted above

They were not

So is that 'put up' enough for you?

Also the Howard Hughes thing is a myth

If there was one guy in this world that didn't submit to peer pressure from anyone it was him

Just check out any of the senate hearing where he basically tells senators to step off!

Now this is the point where you and I are simply going to have to agree to disagree