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So try UltraPack IF you want more realism and historical accuracy of course
PS for AAA admins.

Plz stop editing my post ok?

For those who may not be familiar with Kwiatek

He is the one that takes the mods from the HSFX pack after each major release of HSFX and copies them into the UltraPack

Which is why most if not all major releases/upgrades of UltraPack follow the release/upgrade of HSFX by a few days

In that it takes them a few days to extract the HSFX mods and copy them into thier package

Also note that Kwiatek makes hollow claims about UP being more accurate

That is to say all he provides is words stating that it is more accurate

He provides no proof of it

Oh sure he might post a IL2Comp graph showing some performance values relative to another spit in the game

But he has yet to ever show a graph of his flight model vs. the real world data

So if your the lemming type that will belive anything anyone tells you with no proof

You will be welcomed with open arms over at UltraPack

And yes you should go download the latest version of UltraPack

Just keep in mind that all flight model development done by UltraPack up to and including UP2.0 was done on the Crimea map

Same is true of the IL2Comp graphs provided by Kwiatek

The Crimea map which is very far off standard atmosphere (STD ATM) conditions

And as most people in the know know

All real world data is presented relative to STD ATM conditions

Thus you can not compare the results from Crimea to STD ATM results

I say you but I mean most

The folks at UltraPack didn't realize this mistake until just a few months ago

And are now back peddling so fast that their pant legs are getting caught in the chain

And they are falling over trying to put out the fires that are proving that the idea that UltraPack has more accurate flight models is just a myth

As a mater of FACT Kwiatek locked a thread over at UltraPack today that I was posting in that proved this

That is what they do over there when ever a topic ask questions that they don't like

That or they will simply delete your post or their posts that make them look bad

Which is probably the reason Kwiatek posted in this thread here today and said what he said

He thinks most of you will be fooled into thinking that UltraPack forum does not edit or delete your post if he accuses AAA of doing it

But the fact is they do the same thing they belittle AAA for doing (read hypocrits)

Pretty standard actions of the UltraPack folks to come here after someone proves they where wrong in their forum

I guess it makes them feel better

But it really just makes them look rather petty IMHO

But if your the type that likes to see the flight models talked about in an open forum

Than you have come to the righ place!

And here are some examples

REALISM RATINGS
Spitfire IX 25lb
Bf-109K-4
F-51D-30NA HSFX 4.1
F-51D-30NA UP1.8
F-51D-30NA UP2.0


FM ANALYSIS
Bf-109K-4
P-47Ds
F-86s
MiG-15s
P-38s

You wont find this kind of openness on the discussion of the flight model implementations over at UltraPack that lays it all out on the talbe for all to see

Over there you have to be a good lemming and simply 'trust' them :?