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So try UltraPack IF you want more realism and historical accuracy of course

Kwiatek, is it really neccessary to provoke that kind of discussion again?
The pros and cons about your FMs are filling dozens of pages over at UP.
A set of those discussion threads has been closed over there, not without a reason. One of them for instance has been closed since you didn't respond to a similar discussion in this AAA board anymore, so some people carried over the thread to UP.

I can understand both side's arguments, but I don't catch the point why you just cannot live with the fact that not everybody shares your opinion about the current situation of modified FMs.

To put this straight: I'm using UP 2.01 most of the time as well, so I don't insist in AAA being "good" and UP being "bad". I've got my opinion about the FM thing, but IL2 and UP consist of more than just your FMs.

PS for AAA admins.
Plz stop editing my post ok?

AAA's current attitude against UP is a matter of common knowledge.
You already know the result before pressing the "Submit" button.

it takes them a few days to extract the HSFX mods and copy them into thier package

No, that's a different thing.
UP takes HSFX as a base, widely untouched (that's why you can select the HSFX compatibility mode from JSGME for online gameplay).
Additional UP packages reside in the files folder whereas the HSFX base is available in SFS format.

Kwiatek makes hollow claims about UP being more accurate
That is to say all he provides is words stating that it is more accurate
He provides no proof of it

The discussion is pointless.
Regarding FM historical accuracy, Kwiatek is doing what he can do to reveal the facts his work is based on.
He's doing a great job for that matter and I guess at the moment there's nobody available who has got the knowledge and time to compete (or, better choice, complement).
But that's not the point.

Criticism about Kwiatek's work mainly arises from editing other people's work without asking for permission, thus claiming ownership of things being intellectual property of somebody else. Further more working on FMs always shifts the balance in regarding missions - it's something you can greatly disagree about whether or not it's more important to have historical accurate FMs or balanced gameplay. History wasn't balanced in the air, at least from a specific time on, but there might be reasons that IL2 gameplay should persist balanced yet.

REALISM RATINGS
(...)
FM ANALYSIS

...only a few of those are UP FMs, and those show the same error tendency like the HSFX ones.
The same thing, more or less pronounced, nothing to worry about.

Best regards - Mike