29.04.2010, 06:26
Great editing, great grass, but sorry, the CM-193 never had roundels painted on the wings and it was a Type 10, not a Type 6... and in fact arrrived to Spain in 1938... But anyway I loved the detail of the opened cockpit door.
Take care so there are some faked pictures of this one... also, the second term planes have incorrect markings, I think the default spanish republican markings are 99% incorrect in all cases in Il-2; no roundels after markings normalised in 1937, and red ribbon is missing just behind the cockpit. Numbers were not planted anymore in the vertical fin.
Only first planes got roundels around 1936. I'm not referring to I-15 or I-16... the official roundels before thre war started in spain were like this:
At the first hostilities, they were kept in planes yet in service, like the Nieuport-Delage NiD-52 and the Breguet XIX.
But there was a problem; both sides had the same planes at first, and the identification to shoot or not was made by the markings. From long distance, there could be confusions between the roundels of both sides...
...so republicans removed them and did not paint them anymore on the newly imported planes.
Very detailed info, not 100% correct, but very close to, here:
http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/mod ... codes.html
Sorry for arguing, but I must put in knowledge of all this information... more accurate investigation aboout paintings and markings soon... in 2 days I'll be touching some SCW real remains of I-15, I-16 and Bf-109 (small, but clear enough to analyse the colours... and well conserved).
Well, i fact some work has been done about realistic colours to extract the exact colour, by making some means:
viewtopic.php?t=16273
Anyway, take care that, as some ground crews reported, sometimes the repairs needed repaint, and they were often short on colour, so had to mix it with dissoluble solutions. Colours might vary a little in repaired planes.
Take care so there are some faked pictures of this one... also, the second term planes have incorrect markings, I think the default spanish republican markings are 99% incorrect in all cases in Il-2; no roundels after markings normalised in 1937, and red ribbon is missing just behind the cockpit. Numbers were not planted anymore in the vertical fin.
Only first planes got roundels around 1936. I'm not referring to I-15 or I-16... the official roundels before thre war started in spain were like this:
At the first hostilities, they were kept in planes yet in service, like the Nieuport-Delage NiD-52 and the Breguet XIX.
But there was a problem; both sides had the same planes at first, and the identification to shoot or not was made by the markings. From long distance, there could be confusions between the roundels of both sides...
...so republicans removed them and did not paint them anymore on the newly imported planes.
Very detailed info, not 100% correct, but very close to, here:
http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/mod ... codes.html
Sorry for arguing, but I must put in knowledge of all this information... more accurate investigation aboout paintings and markings soon... in 2 days I'll be touching some SCW real remains of I-15, I-16 and Bf-109 (small, but clear enough to analyse the colours... and well conserved).
Well, i fact some work has been done about realistic colours to extract the exact colour, by making some means:
viewtopic.php?t=16273
Anyway, take care that, as some ground crews reported, sometimes the repairs needed repaint, and they were often short on colour, so had to mix it with dissoluble solutions. Colours might vary a little in repaired planes.