[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

Well that is all nice, but I do hope you agree that if the pro jets or now-a-day planes fans may voice their opinions that those that prefer the vintage models may have their say too? I think we can agree that IL2 is something special, but there is a fear that it could go cfs, and when one is at the stage of asking for F-14 Tomcats and Starfighters, at least I am of that opinion (but maybe I am just a old fart who does not trust some) that one is not far from asking for Doc Browns DeLorean DMC-12 or freakier

Oh please, are you really complaining that I'm only coming down on purists?
Of course you chaps are entitled to have your say, and we don't suppress any of the vast multitude of requests we see for ac of the period that you agree with. We've let you have your say in a variety of threads, it's the same things being said though.
As for even handedness, well now, if on every request for vintage stuff (and let's be honest, since you're talking here about eveness, there's are a damn site more of those than there are vietnam + anyway) a group of jet jockys start saying how "awful the very idea of old aircraft is", how the idea of "vintage ww2 aircraft are an insult to the sim", acting as though somehow their oppinions are somehow more valid than the purists or, even worse the modders, using really awful analogies that lack relevance etc etc etc -- well aside form laughing ast them, rest assured I'd be handling that in the same way as this. Oddly enough, we don't see that at all. It only works one way it seems.

Now please, don't go around implying I'm not even handed, I rather object to that. And here's the thing. We've seen so many of the same posts, saying the same things, where the same people post their objections to modern-ish stuff and later. The same arguments crop up. The same flaming goes on on both sides, but I have to admit, from what I've seen it tends to be the purists who cause such things. Well, I'm fed up. The moderators are fed up of the same bs being drudged up. It's boring. it's been said. So as I said above, if you have nothing new and constructive to add, don't post. That counts for everyone. My opinions here, and I've never hidden the fact I'm all for the improvement of the sim, are irrelevant. I don't let stuff like that cloud my judgement.





Anyway gentlemen the last I checked, this thread was a work in progress and will remain asuch. Take any objections or discussion to the "do you support modern jet fighters" thread. As said here there and everywhere recently it seems, try and keep posts relevant and civil and try not to just be saying the same things again and again.