[Dietz]

question, did you move all the mods from the right to the left prior to updating?

Well I actually had a 4.10.1 fresh install before installing HFSX5.0, then I immediately dropped in the hot fix...should I have palyed it once,made sure all the JSGME were then disabled then install the hotfix.I seem to remember thats what I did the first time around before the hotfix was available now that you mention it.Would this explain my problems this time? :-?