[ACE-OF-ACES]

The following is provided for those that are seeking answer and info to make informed decisions..

That is to say I am not replying to F22-Raptor-2006 as much as I am replying to those who may be reading this thread to point out F22-Raptor-2006s omissions and errors

Before we begin, take note that F22-Raptor-2006 did not address, let alone refute anything that I said.

This is a typical tactic used by those who wish to take the focus of the thread off the subject at hand.

The subject at hand being that UP3.0 will not support any official 1C/TD patches after 4.10.1m, put another way UP3.0 will be incompatible with IL-2 servers and users that upgrade their version of IL-2 to 4.11m when it comes out. Thus splitting the IL-2 community into to camps, one being the UltraPack camp and the other being the official 1C/TD camp that includes HSFX 5.0 and other mods and mod packs.

With that in mind lets take a look at F22-Raptor-2006 weak attempt to take the focus of this thread off the subject at hand

F22-Raptor-2006
Hmm, not quite the full story or far from it but anyway.

Note that F22-Raptor-2006 is implying that I did not give the full story.. But also note that he actually did not say anything at all.. This is a typical tactic used by those who don't have anything to support what they are saying.. The goal being to discredit someone by accusing them of something and hoping no one notices that they didn't provide any quotes let alone proof to support their accusation. Put another way, if I had said something that was in-accurate it would be a simple mater to quote what I said and than address the error.. The fact that F22-Raptor-2006 did not do that and had to resort to this weak baseless tactic actually gives more credit to the things I have said, not less. But only an alert reader would pick up on that, which is why I went the the extra effort to point it out for those that may not be paying attention.

Now lets take a look at what F22-Raptor-2006 said next

F22-Raptor-2006
ACE-OF-ACES perhaps I missed one of your other threads because I don't see one in the HSFX forum saying something along the lines that it's designed for SEOW and if you are really interested in online servers for dog fighting rather than campaigns the obvious choice would then be UP.

Note that F22-Raptor-2006 is trying to float the myth that HSFX can only be used for online SEOW campaigns. This borders on pure lie but I will give F22-Raptor-2006 the benefit of the doubt that he actually belive this myth, even though one has to wonder how one such as he who claims to be so mod maker SAVVY how he could fall for such a myth, but I digress. It is true that the core folks that make HSFX have done it and do it to enhance their online SEOQ campaigns, but it is not true that HSFX can only be used for online SEOW campaigns. The features added to IL2 via HSFX are there for anyone that wants to use them, but these features are not forced upon anyone to use them. On that note I challenged anyone reading this thread to tell us what feature F22-Raptor-2006 is referring to but will not say that excludes HSFX from being by those really interested in online servers for dog fighting rather than campaigns.. Trust me this challenge will go un-answered! Why? Because as I noted this is a myth that people who are trying to promote 'other' mod packs trot out when trying to take the focus off the topic at hand.. It is sad how many people fall for this myth, which again is why I went to the extra effort to point it out for those that may not be paying attention.

Now lets take a look at what F22-Raptor-2006 said next

F22-Raptor-2006
On another note, as 4.101m has an old version of zuti mds and UP3 has a newer version of zuti mds (which also has multi-crewing, something quite big in terms of online dogfight servers) so the default and UP3 servers will be incompatible anyway.

Note that F22-Raptor-2006 is pointing out one good aspect of UP3.0, that being a newer version of zuti mds, but for anyone that makes missions they can tell how how nice it is to finally have a standardized version of zuti mds incorporated into IL-2, a version that is stable and something they can count on. Or anyone that tried to join a server that was running one version of zuti mds and they had another, so this issue is really user dependent. Some will find the benefits of having a stable version that has been inspected and incorporated by 1C/TD out weights the benefits of multi-crewing and some will not. But from what I have heard about multi-crewing I think most will find that it does not out weight the benefits of a stable standards official 1C/TD version.

Now lets take a look at what F22-Raptor-2006 said next

F22-Raptor-2006
P.S. Your comment sounds like saying UP2.0 will not support 4.10 or HSFX4 will not support 4.10....

Here is another example of F22-Raptor-2006 trying to cast doubt and/or discredit what I said.. As before the indicator being that he did not provide any quote let alone proof that I said such things, again is why I went to the extra effort to point it out for those that may not be paying attention.

Now lets take a look at what F22-Raptor-2006 said next

F22-Raptor-2006
If people do support a version the massive amount of changes means that it will be likely that it will be called a new version.

To be honest I have no idea what F22-Raptor-2006 is trying to imply here.. It sounds more like wishful thinking on his part than anything to do with what I or anyone else said, thus chalk it up to an attempt by him to try and muddy the waters of this thread in another weak attempt to take the focus off the topic at hand