Histomod Pack ( Pack Mod Corea 1.3)
#76

Freddy Wrote:There is nothing here to stop this fool guy ?
It s very clear he is psychotic , he is not healthy of spirit to do that ... Again and agin the same words , I speaks alone ... he s not a modder , he dont know nothing about the simulator , he makes wrong curves , offend people ... And it s very clear too he have not tested the mod ....
What happens on this forum ? Confusedhock: It s very strange ...
Typical Freddy

Can't address the 'test data'

Thus time to swicht to attacking the messanger

Not suprised

Same slide of hand you tried before
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#77

European Snake Wrote:My GOD! Do you EVER shut up?!?

Can someone just ban this psychopath once and for all?
Hey Euro

Ill tell you the same thing I told the rest

I know your upset and all

But that is no excuse to break the forum rules

And resort to calling me names

So please stop it

Thanks in advance!
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#78

FZ Wrote:Hey, ACE don't you forget that I am the one supposed to be attacking YOU ...

I am very sorry for your 99% sure opinion, but I did check at least twice what I translated, of course for free, for my friend Freddy and I didn't double any part, but as we all know Freedy is that generous he must have doubled the dose somewhere ....

So I didn't make any mistake, and as as far as making mistakes is concerned, instead of playing with your nicely coloured curves you'd better revise your grammar, you would thus stop writing "your" (possessive adjective) when you mean "you're" (verb to be), I thought English was YOUR native language ...

Regarding my translating skills I publically challenge you to show me a Google translation of Histomod's pack French read-me, that would be any better than mine ...

EVERYBODY here except YOU knows that Google translating skills are somewhat "porked" ....


IF YOUR AIM HERE IS TO PORK THIS THREAD YOU THEN MUST BE THE HAPPIEST MODDER F.......R IN THE REALM OF CERTITUDES ...

PLEASE IS THERE ANY MODO OR ADMIN AROUND ? I STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS THREAD NEEDS A GOOD CLEANING !!!
I see you take constructive criticism as well a Freddy does

Oh well, not surprise in the least!

Look I understand your upset that I pointed out your mistake with the read me file

But you really should be thanking me for pointing out your mistake so you can correct it

Instead of getting more upset

Just a thought

As for who porked this thread

Don't forget that YOU are the one that STARTED all this back on the top of page 3

Where you attacked me first
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#79

ACE-OF-ACES Wrote:
FZ Wrote:Hey, ACE don't you forget that I am the one supposed to be attacking YOU ...

I am very sorry for your 99% sure opinion, but I did check at least twice what I translated, of course for free, for my friend Freddy and I didn't double any part, but as we all know Freedy is that generous he must have doubled the dose somewhere ....

So I didn't make any mistake, and as as far as making mistakes is concerned, instead of playing with your nicely coloured curves you'd better revise your grammar, you would thus stop writing "your" (possessive adjective) when you mean "you're" (verb to be), I thought English was YOUR native language ...

Regarding my translating skills I publically challenge you to show me a Google translation of Histomod's pack French read-me, that would be any better than mine ...

EVERYBODY here except YOU knows that Google translating skills are somewhat "porked" ....


IF YOUR AIM HERE IS TO PORK THIS THREAD YOU THEN MUST BE THE HAPPIEST MODDER F.......R IN THE REALM OF CERTITUDES ...

PLEASE IS THERE ANY MODO OR ADMIN AROUND ? I STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS THREAD NEEDS A GOOD CLEANING !!!
I see you take constructive criticism as well a Freddy does

Oh well, not surprise in the least!

Look I understand your upset that I pointed out your mistake with the read me file

But you really should be thanking me for pointing out your mistake so you can correct it

Instead of getting more upset

Just a thought


YOU are still making the very same grammatical mistake, "your" is the possessive adjective, you should write "you're", contraction of "you are", so as far as correcting mistakes is concerned I have no lesson to receive from you although I am French and "messanger" is spelt with an "e", messEnger" ...

as I have just explained it to you, the read-me translation I sent Freddy did NOT have any part in double, I then don't know what happened to it ...
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#80

@ACE-OF-ACES:
Could you please shut up and stop spamming aaa, you are getting on my nerves!
And I think I'm not the only one!
Eagle
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#81

Eagle2009 Wrote:@ACE-OF-ACES:
Could you please shut up and stop spamming aaa, you are getting on my nerves!
And I think I'm not the only one!
Eagle
Tell ya what Egale

You stop refering to me and/or replying to me and I will stop refering to you and/or replying to you

Thus reducing the amount of posts in this thread

Deal?

And know that offer goes out to all the lemmings, not just you!

PS asking questions and responding to others is not spamming

Its one for one

Spamming would be if I posted 10 replys to your 1 post to me

See the difference?

Glad I could help!
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#82

... it is not only your grammar skills that need some good colour curves but also your READING skills, is now that LARGE enough for you to be able to READ it ?


"as I have just explained it to you, the read-me translation I sent Freddy did NOT have any part in double ..."

I NEVER claimed I was a "tranlator", I only happen to speak some English, and since this is the only thing I can do better than Freddy, then I do translate his read-me(s) whenever he asks it from me, and of course for free, that's called frienship if you have any idea about what this word means ....
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#83

ACE-OF-ACES Wrote:No skin off my back

[* admin edited *]

I've been consulting admins. I hope they take action on you soon.
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#84

If anyone is reading this I have unlocked this thread and cleaned up as mush as I can for now. I will be going back a removing the last insults I find. In the meantime, if you have posted insulting remarks either delete your post or edit accordingly.

Remember the forum rules, no name calling.

I'll be posting a response later to all this as I'm quite busy at the moment.

Please keep to topic.

Thank you
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#85

FZ Wrote:No need to "guess" ACE, you only need to "read" the you know what that I translated 'cause it looks like you missed 2 points :


"Reticle :

With all Korea AC the reticle is off by default, you have to switch it on, and this is only possible once the engine has started.
This will gradually be applied to all AC of the game ...

Weapons ON/OFF :

You now have to switch on your weapons with all AC before being able to fire them.

Please note that for all Korea AC switching weapons ON is not possible while on the ground, this will gradually be applied to all AC ..."



besides what do you mean when you write :

"(read incomparable with like bomb bay doors) ?

Do you mean "incompatible" ?

As for the rest, only Freddy can answer your questions ...
Thanks for the info FZ

So that is 'two' more things

As noted, the readme was pretty messed up, so not surprised I miss those two items

Since it looks like we will never get a complete list

Allow me to add those two things you mentioned to the list I have started

Maybe in time we can come up with a complete list

Here is the running list of all the things the HISTOMOD 1.3 adds, changes, breaks (read incompatible with like bomb bay doors)

So people here at AAA/HSFX can make a informed decision before DL this mod


1 Breaks the bomb bay doors
2 Adds pilot heavy breathing sounds
3 Changes the stock HSFX FMs for the F86, MiG15, P51, (more?)
4 Changes start up sequence from a sing step/button to a multi step/button
5 Changes the one step/button bail out to a two step/button bail out
6 Adds a beautiful F86A cockpit (that can be dl separately and added to HSFX)
7 Breaks the canopy open/close such that the autopilot tries to open in flight
8 Adds on/off switch for Reticle
9 Adds on/off switch for Weapons

Other than that I don't see what else it does.

Which is not to imply that it does not do more!!

Since there is no complete list of additions, changes, and breaks.

We are left to 'guess' at all the things it adds, changes, and breaks.

So, in light of that here is the AAA running list of the things the HISTOMOD 1.3 add, changes, and/or break s
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#86

It s very cool to open this thread again , but if it s to see again the same guy always and always with the same coments on the mod it s not necessary ...
Never I ve seen that , a forum where someone comes in a mod s thread to tell people what they have to do with it...

For all the fools : it s a game ! Not the real life !!!

If you don t stop your fool guy , I ve to understand it s a choice from AAA to let him put his shit here , and it s just not correct !

( I want to hurt nobody but it s a really strange , I will be very happy if I m wrong about this ! Smile )

At last , for this guy : keep your ridiculous list for you , we don t ask you nothing ... All you need is to test the mod , it needs 5 mn to install it , you ll see there is a lot of things inside , you can t imagine ...

keep your wrong curves too , a basic test will show they say exactly the opposite as it happens in the game ; the Histomod F-86 s (roc , speed ...) have FM performences under the stock hsfx F-86 , and never a real F-86 had flown like the hsfx default ...

It begins from the ground ... With hsfx default , you can take off out of the runway ?... Very realistic isn t it ? The Histomod F-86 can t do that , you ll just break undercarriage ... Next , when your are at the end of the course to take off and your wheels leave the ground ... The hsfx default makes a jump in the air ... Never , a real aircraft can do that ... It s because the pitch is totaly wrong ... etc ....etc ...and the list is very large ...

Let your curves in toilets and speak a little with some real pilots , they have a lot of things to learn to you ...

Last thing : Bombs Bay doors is not broken cause Bombs bay doors is include in the mod !
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#87

Freddy

I'm very busy at work at the moment and I don't have much time. Just so you know, Ace is actually an engineer that has worked in the aerospace industry. We my team are using his data to tweak our planes, you may use the ones supplied by Ace or not, it's your choice.

I will tell you this, the reports being produced are being flown by AI and human, they are not infomod charts hence the java code by default is being used, not just the button files as infomod uses.

Again, no more calling names, let's keep this professional. I think we are all wanting the same things, excellent FM development and quality mods.

Please edit your posts accordingly.

Thank you.
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#88

Thanks Monguse for your answer ..... Big Grin

You say Ace is actually an engineer that has worked in the aerospace industry , I want to believe it , no problem ... But the curves he made about the Corea 1.3 are wrong .... I understand he wants to save the work he have done with another modder , but it s not a reason to come here and spam this thread ...

All is free , if he don t like me , he s free to use his own work to play with IL2 , no problem for me , but not free to come here just to fight with me , and say wrong things about the mod ... :wink:

Perhaps now we can come back to the peace ....
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#89

Understood, now you can lean on ACE and believe it or not he will be more than glad to help and calculate for you as he does for us.

One more thing, the calculations performed are given by a program in matlab from recorded values from Il2's linkdevice output.
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#90

Freddy Wrote:But the curves he made about the Corea 1.3 are wrong .
Freddy, I think you are forgeting that I did a test that proves ZINFOMOD takes into account your Java class changes.

viewtopic.php?t=22495&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180

If you will remember, back in your other post on the HISTOMOD, I 1st tested your F86A with SJacks ZINFOMOD which showed your F86A having an ROC ~10,000fpm @ SL. After that you said, much like your saying now, that those curves were wrong! And your reason for why they were wrong is you said the ZINFOMOD does not take into accont your Java class changes. To test that theory I than did, what you called, a 'real fly' test. Where I collected data via DeviceLink and ploted it.
I did several climb tests at differnt climb speeds and picked the one that gave me the largest ROC @ SL.

[Image: BCS_ROC_VS_ALT.png]

[Image: BF_ROC_VS_ALT.png]

As you can see in the graphs above, that testing showed your F86A has an ROC @ SL of ~9,400fpm. Granted not the 10,000fpm that ZINFOMOD predicted, but MUCH LARGER THAN THE 7,500fpm the F86A SHOULD HAVE! And thus debunking your theory that ZINFOMOD does not take into account your Java class changes. It clearly does, in that 9,400fpm is very close to 10,00fpm, much closer to 10,00fpm than 7,500fpm. And I think if I were to fly it at a climb speed inbetween 250 and 300 (say 275) that it would obtain the 10,000fpm.
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