[Chaoic16]

I have an idea how to find out how each of these would get (by some chances) proper FM by this methods:

According to X plane website:

http://www.x-plane.com/about.html

"X-Plane reads in the geometric shape of any aircraft and then figures out how that aircraft will fly. It does this by an engineering process called "blade element theory", which involves breaking the aircraft down into many small elements and then finding the forces on each little element many times per second. These forces are then converted into accelerations which are then integrated to velocities and positions"

X plane would be used to test these 'what if' these aircraft were actual built, then these result of flight envoriments and informations would be used as FM work for il-2 1946, when it come to modifying the aircraft model to include these 'what if' aircrafts.

What do everyone think of this, in case if we add more of 'what if' aircrafts of Allied and Axis for further 'what if' scenario, according to this thread:

viewtopic.php?t=4925




Chaoic out...

[ArcticViper]

Try and put in the Ta-183 there.

Now the russian engineers found that it would never have been able to fly with that tail. In part due to the nazi regime's inability to aquire the rare alloys needed for the construction of it, and in part due to it's strange shape.

If you can make that fly in X-plane, I don't think you can justify using it.

Other planes that may be interesting to test would be the Spitfire, Bf-109, B-17, and similar planes which we have all the data on, before we can assume anything.

Good idea on that, I don't know how it could be used, but it looks promising.

[Chaoic16]

That is why it wont hurt to try, and lets say... Put P-51, Spitfire, BF 109, or some of famous WWII warplane in X plane. And then when the X plane generate the information of aerodynamic and flight envoriment of these plane, these could be compared to the actual information on paper and see the percent difference between these.

If it is little percent different, then the 'what if' plane could be used in X plane, in order, to find the proper Flight Model for each of these for Il-2 modding. Otherwise, if the percent difference is too great then we will to scrap these method.

However, like i said, it wont hurt to try these method.




Chaoic out...

[ROSOBORONEXPORTCORP]

In my personal opinion X-plane isn't as reliable as Il-2. There are a number of ways of getting quite incorrect results by entering the wrong data.

The problem with the tail of the Ta-183 (if I remember correctly) was a fairly subtle one involving flutter at about 500kph (and a resulting structural failure). Oleg believes that there may have been other problems with the design as well.

Still its a good idea and probably worth experimenting with. I've always wanted to conduct such tests being conducted with the He-162 and Me-262 and then compared with various paper designs (BvP 212). I just doubt that the results will be better than the same experiments done in the Il-2 engine would be.