!!!!!!!!! il2 turnin into a starwars scene !!!!!!!!!
#1

the tracer colors are way off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i don't think they got laser guns in WWII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it very weird to see blue green an red fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
red guess ok but if someone could
i'd appreciate some instructions on switching the colors of the gun shots to realistic yellow, an guess red ok
BUT PLEASE NO BLUE AN GREEN LASERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2

actually it was red, yellow, blue and green tracers, it all on the chemical on the bullet to give the color on tracer effect.

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#3

Exactly. Calm down panzer1b
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panzer1b Wrote:the tracer colors are way off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i don't think they got laser guns in WWII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it very weird to see blue green an red fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
red guess ok but if someone could
i'd appreciate some instructions on switching the colors of the gun shots to realistic yellow, an guess red ok
BUT PLEASE NO BLUE AN GREEN LASERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wrong, the trasers like green ones and blue ones are actually correct :wink:
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panzer1b Wrote:the tracer colors are way off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i don't think they got laser guns in WWII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it very weird to see blue green an red fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
red guess ok but if someone could
i'd appreciate some instructions on switching the colors of the gun shots to realistic yellow, an guess red ok
BUT PLEASE NO BLUE AN GREEN LASERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guess where George Lucas got his ideas from. :wink:
And BTW the laser shots in Star Wars seem to fly at the speeds real bullets would fly at, maybe even slower. I mean, they are LASER shots. They should fly at the speed of light (obviously :roll: ) and shouldn't even be visible. But that's just FYI.
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Klemm Wrote:And BTW the laser shots in Star Wars seem to fly at the speeds real bullets would fly at, maybe even slower. I mean, they are LASER shots. They should fly at the speed of light (obviously :roll: ) and shouldn't even be visible. But that's just FYI.
No, they are BLASTER shots, not laser shots. :wink:

But whatever is the principle on which the Blasters work - olny George Lucas knows...
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#7

I think I read somewhere that its superheated gas, so its plasma essentially. Either that or the bolt is from the gas and the laser shot hits instantly. Not sure which, I've read both somewhere before.

I thought it looked kind of cartoony and fake, but then I read of real accounts of tracers being such colors. The russian green tracers do look much thicker than the others, but I think that is accurate. Even in Strike Fighters/Wings over Europe(cold war) the soviet cannon tracers are thick and green.
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#8

I think we have a noob to the WWII scene... welcome aboard!! I hope you peruse the aspects, events and battles of WWII with enthusiasm and detail. Its a great hobby, and I love using IL2 as a "tool" to experience and immerse myself in that interest that I have invested in over the years..same with SHIII, CM:BB, CM:AK and others... they are all great tools for this effect...

So yes, tracers can be green and blue... They are not always hollywood style.. Smile


TS
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#9

George Lucas = Yellow Green and Orange Red blaster bolts (two colours unless one counts the ion cannons)
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#10

...get black&white monitor .... you should get it historically correct , like in documentaries :wink:

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Z
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#11

Ha! Tongue
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#12

Before the 1960s, the world was actually black and white.

From the renaissance up to the mid 19th century, the world was an oil painting with fat naked women running in forests, harassed by Satyrs.

In the middle ages, the world was a badly drawn caricature with angels and demons.

So Il-2 is actually very innacurate because it's in more or less full colour.

And it is said that using more than 3 exclamation marks in a sentence, is one of the first signs of madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
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Metatron Wrote:And it is said that using more than 3 exclamation marks in a sentence, is one of the first signs of madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

nah, he is just young ... i envy him ... he may live to see sow BoB running smoothly (60+fps) :wink:

btw, do try to play it with desaturated colors ... you'll get feeling John Wayne will pop up in one of cockpits


cheers
Z
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#14

please, fellow admins .... do post note when locking or moving threads , so is known who did it

please !!!!!!

regards
Z
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#15

The fictional technology of Star Wars blasters has been laid out in tabletop RPG and various fanfic and fancyclopedia published. Apparently a jet of gas (best results from Tibanna Gas which was what was being mined at Cloud City in Empire Strikes Back) , is injected into the barrel when the trigger is pressed and a laser actuator fires through that. The (again, fictional) effect is roughly equivalent to a particle accelerator. That is, it is a combination of molecular and radiation weapons. These were a relatively recent development in the Galactic Rim (of civilisation, one arc of the local galaxy like a pie slice). Lasers were used in the Old Republic days but they had massive power requirements and hand held weapons were heavy and underpowered. In fact colonists often continued to rely upon old "slug thrower" type weapons not dissimilar to conventional automatic rifles and large calibre handguns. Lasers themselves were largely left for ship based combat.

The blaster reportedly evolved for low powered vessels to gain similar firepower to military corvettes (and piracy became popular as a result), and also for infantry use.

In conventional military terms, translated to a WW2 setting from the Star Wars universe, a slugthrower would be like an infantry rifle or typical sidearm, a laser weapon like a submachine gun and a blaster weapon like a handheld Oerlikon cannon. Of course soon enough advanced polymer and alloy technologies were combined to produced incredibly lightweight armour which offered some (superficial) resistance to the particle accelerator effect of blaster weapons, like Stormtrooper armour. It of course gives much better protection against more archaic weapons however.

Some blaster pistols like that of Han Solo and certain Rebel Alliance members (many of whom were marginal citizens to begin with), were heavily modified with increased magazines of gas (held under the barrel where the bullets would normally go in the Mauser his gun is based upon), whilst the handle/receiver contained supermodern and quite a powerful battery for the laser actuator, with around 25 shots before a recharge. The gas reservoir has about as many "shots" too. This is a much more high powered blaster pistol than normally available (illegal to own and use), and will do blaster rifle damage at close range (roughly equivalent to a conventional bazooka).

Standard military blasters are a pistol design with both the charge battery and gas reservoir held in the receiver/handle for a total of 100 shots from each, before recharge and re-gassing. These are only about as powerful as something like a .50" calibre conventional firearm.

Blaster rifles are of course the things Stormtroopers run around with, and look like submachine guns. They'll take down most Star Wars light armoured vehicles with one or two shots.


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