Non-historic weapons loadouts...
#1

I realize that this is sacrilege to ask, however, I am interested in adding a 5,000lb bomb to the B-29 in order to "simulate" the effects that an atom bomb might have on a city. The Pe-8 carries such ordinance.

I am familiar with dp editing in CFS but am not sure if this is possible without modelling.

Can it be done?
Can you point me in the right direction? Is it as simple as editing the weapons_ru file?

Any help is appreciated.
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#2

LOO your in luck in fact today i started work on that. I was gettign the B-269 files and all to make a new plane Simply >B-29 NB 1944< NB= Nuke Bomb So it maybe be added to co-op's or some thing. That way you can't just grab a b-29 in a on line server and nuke every 1.
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#3

Well glad to see someone is on that. I take it that it is not easy as txt editing or even simply 3D modeling? I guess I have been warned? Don't go where? Non-historic payload? Nukes? Enjoying the fruits of the folks that have worked hard to unlock a game that seemed unlockable? Which area is it that I should avoid?

I really just want to add a level of interest to my own personal missions. If I like making big booms with slow planes I can not see the harm it will inflict upon history... or the state of IL2 development.

Care to elaborate?

Thanks American. Let us know when and how even.
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#4

dstang Wrote:Well glad to see someone is on that. I take it that it is not easy as txt editing or even simply 3D modeling? I guess I have been warned? Don't go where? Non-historic payload? Nukes? Enjoying the fruits of the folks that have worked hard to unlock a game that seemed unlockable? Which area is it that I should avoid?

I really just want to add a level of interest to my own personal missions. If I like making big booms with slow planes I can not see the harm it will inflict upon history... or the state of IL2 development.

Care to elaborate?

Thanks American. Let us know when and how even.




No weapon changes for default/stock planes is allowed ( nor discussion of such)
that is AAA policy/rule

However since we now have possibility to add new planes ( in new slot ) payloads can be added as long as they are historically justified .

Discussions , "how to" explanations and tool presenting regarding changing weapons FM and DM aren't allowed !

regards
Z
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#5

So technically what im doing is correct. Flight Model really is staying the same. the B-29 Used to Nuke Japan was just like any other. I might need some help further on tho. As soon as some one can give me there me and help me set up all these java tool's ill be doing alot better.
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#6

american Wrote:So technically what im doing is correct. Flight Model really is staying the same. the B-29 Used to Nuke Japan was just like any other. I might need some help further on tho. As soon as some one can give me there me and help me set up all these java tool's ill be doing alot better.


yup, if you're planing to publish it as new slot plane , you are just fine ... just no changes to stock one, please .
As for help, please do contact Hellzone or some of the wizards via PM ... please do consider that they are busy with their projects so you may have to wait a little while for respond .


cheers
Z
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#7

i'm unlocking this ....


fellow admins .... please, in the future post a note before locking or moving threads

regards
Z
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#8

In fact the Enola Gay and Bock's Car were not standard B29s. They were stripped of defensive armament to make them fast enough to outrun the bomb blast and to carry their payload- the first A bombs were quite heavy and large.
I don't know what other modifications may have been done besides that.
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#9

Nuclear carrying B-29's were known as the "silverplate modification" and it was in fact a series production of something like 36 planes. All weapons and armour was removed and substantial modifications were made to the bomb bay areas (fuel tanks added to the aft bay), mostly to accommodate the Fat Man style bomb, since the revised Little Boy style weapon could be accommodated in the standard B-29 bomb bay. A new crew station was placed in the cockpit to monitor the weapon and drop procedure. A new variant of the Wright R-3350 engine was fitted and reversable pitch propellers were included. Apparently these "silverplate" B-29's had vastly superior performance to the standard model.

Visually the obvious difference is no weapons or turrets. There is a long range reconnaissance variant of the B-29 which this looked identical to. Some USAAF heavy bomber/reconnaissance groups made a habit of overflying Japan in small numbers or as lone aircraft in the weeks leading up to the bombings.
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#10

Well stripping the gun's that's no problem. But being the flight model change i ask if any one can help me out with that.

I'll start real work today since i was just messing around earlier.
Nuke B-29
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#11

Sweet. Now all we need is the that Ruskie 5000'er cloned & increased :mrgreen:

+ 1 for a silverplate.
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#12

Ok, if we are talking of new planes for the slot, made from originals, I'd ask for the P-47N, with correct weapon loadout of 2x1000lb bombs strapped to the wings, with a 500lb bomb strapped to the belly. I'd also like the option of 150 Gallon drop tanks.
Info can be found here:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/models/p47n.html

So hopefully this could be a future addition to the slot of the 'Jug Jockeys'

Cheers, SM
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#13

I think you would have better success if you posted this as a new thread.
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#14

no weapon mods unless new b29 slot made
if this done then add like a 50000kg bomb, that's a real nuke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i 100% in support of nukes
love blowin crap out of grounded planes in pe8, a b29 super weapon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!VVUULLCCHHIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#15

I guess I stirred up a hornet's nest. My apologies for requesting a stock aircraft mod. However, as American pointed out, the "Silverplate Modification" is indeed another entirely new aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverplate (yes I know wiki is not a great resource, but I will get better)

This being the case can I request a thread be started for this variant of the B-29? I realize that this aircraft could cause problems online (I never play nor do I plan on playing online) but perhaps lines can be drawn in the sand to prevent this.

Also, from a technical perspective, what all will be required to get this made? I would love to learn and possibly have a hand in it. I think the hard part would be the weapons modding.

Thanks in advance.
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