Early P-38s? Like F or G model??
#1

I have always wanted to see an early P-38 for both the Pacific and Euro theaters. The F model would be a great addition, or the G model. They were slower than the later ones but still fast. The E model did not see much service and not many were made, it was the F that was the first one made in large quantities and was actually ready for the fight. I always wondered why Gibbage only made the later variants. Leaves a big hole for the year 1942. A modded P-38J would work but it would have to loose the beard radiators in favor of the sleeker, more streamlined but less effective early ones like on the "Glacier Girl".
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#2

I agree, the P-38F and G are certainly needed and they saw a good bit of combat in the Pacific theater. Externally, the F and G models were identical, so one aircraft model would suffice for both.
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#3

The H would suit me too, but in any case we're badly missing those early P38s for New Guinea current map !
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#4

bump
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#5

I think of the F, G ang H, the F would be the most useful because it's early enough for the late New Guinea campaign. All three would be ok but the F is the most important. They all three have the same performance approximately.
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#6

I discovered through the course of the years that the planes that I enjoyed most are the one that can be used in challenging campaings.Early P-38s are in the top of that list.After I tried the P-38s in IL-2, I understood why that plane had such huge supporters among pilots.It would have been a grat addition to have early P-38s.However I think that people in the AAA are a bit overloaded with projects right now, so give them time.
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#7

Go go go for early P38s.

Because of the similar performance of the P38 F/G, and the fact that we are all aware of the FM fudge factor in Il-2 to enhance aircraft performance parity (up to a point at least) anyway, why not just create a slot called P38 F/G and go from there?
One obvious loadout option would be the 23mm nose cannon as opposed to the 20mm.
Etc etc for all you guys who know more or are willing to delve immediately deeper into research.
Point being if these are built people will fly them.
These were arguably more important models for their impact than the J, L anyway - production numbers notwithstanding. See Bong and McGuire etc...

von Kopfdorfer
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#8

Another great idea...these would also be absolutely essential for the desert campaigns.
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#9

I'd love to see a 38F as well. Its really something that should have been in PF when it first came out.

@ Kopfdorfer - 23mm cannon on a P-38? This is news to me.
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#10

The 23mm cannon was originaly on the XP-38, an experimental model.. it crashed in Feb 1939 after a record breaking flight. Didn't see action of course..
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#11

But one model had 1x37mm and 4x12,7mm cannons or. And what
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#12

Working out of memory here, but the 37mm job was the YP-38, issued in very small numbers for evaluation by the military, and again, I don't think it saw any action.. the experts out there may be able to give you more info..
the armament configuration we have in game is the standard that it actualy entered war service..
There is just no point in the modders spending time on obscure test variants, what we need are aircraft types that actualy saw combat so we can fully utilise them in game.. lol, of course thats just my humble opinion! :lol:
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#13

i too would like to see earlier P-38 variants plus the super high alt K model. Was it not the E that had the 37mm, most interested in that, but i dont think it saw any if much action at all.

From My Book

XP-38: Prototype
1 Built
Armament: 4x23mm Madson Cannon + 4x0.50 Colt-Browning Machine Guns

YP-38: Service Test Model; Modified XP-38
13 Built
Armament: 37mm Oldsmobile Cannon + 2x0.50 + 2x.30 Machine Guns

P-38 production model had 37mm + 4x0.50 cal machine guns

XP-38A
P-38 E: Same as D but with 1 x 20mm Hispano Cannon in lieu of 37mm
210 built
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#14

You "only" need to alter the intakes of the P-38J and you have the mesh for a P-38F. The rest is timeconsuming class and FM work.
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#15

Zorin Wrote:You "only" need to alter the intakes of the P-38J and you have the mesh for a P-38F. The rest is timeconsuming class and FM work.


I think gibbage might even have an early P-38 already done?

Maybe try to contact him if I have time.

Also, I have a lot of reference material for P-38 if it can help...
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