[farang65]

Hi Fred,
My game got too muddled up with all the mods etc. had to reinstall everything a new.
i tried the Thai map with the original 4.09 objects. Now everything is working.
I love flying around Chiang Mai. I saw the temple on the top of Dio Suthep. Awesome
My wife took me there on our second day of getting to know one another before we got married.
Have played round with some missions Avg v's A5m4's and vice versa.
The missions are saving too!!!!

CHEERS KIRBY
CHIANG MAI

[MrOblongo]

ABOUT TUONGOO:

"A well kept but short (1350m) runway was sorrounded by bamboo huts called bashas by the locals"

Source: Zbiegniebski A.2004. "AVG Flying Tigers", Lublin.
On page 6.

[fabianfred]

a basha like this?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28361002@N07/2654264303

[CzechTexan]

Is anyone else having problems saving missions with the new Thailand.update120708.rar?

I've tried many different variations of folders and static.ini but can't seem to get any of my maps to save now. Before everything was fine, even with other maps.

Reading thru the earlier pages of this Thailand forum there were other people having problems with saving missions. Any thoughts on a remedy? Maybe airfield waypoints? LOL who knows!

I'm done trying for now. And now I can't even save on my other maps so I don't know what to do.

***
I also will not have internet access for a few months starting wednesday, maybe til December so I will not be able to help with map building and testing. Maybe all problems will be solved by then.

[MrOblongo]

a basha like this?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28361002@N07/2654264303

Just like this one...

[fabianfred]

@Czecktexan...you really seem to have messed things up ...there should have been no need to go messing with folders if they were working OK before..
The last Thaimap pack with the latest 120708 update should be all you need ...plus R1's hanger pack

Mr.Oblongo (please do not be annoyed...but everytime I see your name it makes me think of those Nigerian letter scam's..)

nice photo there....and BTW those are not Coconut trees in the background..but Areca nut trees

The Toungoo district is especially well-known in Burma for the quality of its Betel nuts...which are chewed by many of the older generation and produce a red stain in the mouth (said to strengthen teeth, but unfortunately to rot the gums!)

[MrOblongo]

Ill be annoyed if i knew what are the Nigerian Letter scams
...lol

[CzechTexan]

I admit that before this map arrived I had little knowledge about the role Thailand played in the war. Since then I've learned more. Here is some information that others may not know...

Early in the war the Japanese attacked British Burma from their bases in Thailand.
Later in the war (1944-45) as the Japanese were being pushed out of Burma the air campaign grew increasingly larger against targets in Thailand.

USAAF B-24s and RAF Liberators, B-25s, Beaufighters, and Mosquitoes all targeted Thailand's infrastructure and Japanese bases and shipping. B-24s and Liberators flew some of the longest missions of the war...On 25 January 1945 the longest flight to date was made in an RAF Liberator MK VI - 21 hours, 55 minutes, landing at Chittagong on return.

The Air Commando Group also made ground attack raids in Thailand when they received P-51Ds and even made some raids into French Indochina at Vinh.

The JAAF late in the war was weak when they were pushed back into Thailand but they were still able to put up some fight against the allies.

So you see, FabianFred's Thailand map may seem insignificant in the broader scheme of WW2 but there were numerous "forgotten" air battles in this area in which hundreds of airmen fought and died for.

[CzechTexan]

Just a quick note: My problem with saving missions is solved. It seems I installed some MODS folders into the wrong destination so it's all my fault. So, to all you newbies out there, be careful where you place the new folders. THANK YOU FabianFred for all your help.

*****
I added a zip file to FabianFred's site. It's titled Bangkok with two missions (Bangkok01A - Fly a Ki-84)(Bangkok01B - Fly a Ki-61 Hei).
Fly for the JAAF, takeoff from Bangkok airfield, and intercept incoming B-29 Superfortresses.

This is a re-creation of the November 27, 1944 B-29 raid on Bangkok. 55 bombers were in the raid. I depict 24. Place the unzipped "Bangkok" folder into your IL21946/Missions/Single/JA folder.

This will be my last created missions upload for a few months. Good luck!

[fabianfred]

Today i spent tidying up things........ very close to being a full release now...

Re-did the rail/road network in Rangoon and made it as close to real as I can.... added a couple more stations there too

added the docks and oil refineries at Rangoon which were frequent targets for both sides airforces

[MrOblongo]

Great news !. Cant wait...but i do wait anyway...Great work!

[MrOblongo]

And to add more to the historical info...

MISSIONS FLEW BY THE USAAF TO THAILAND Late 1944/Early 1945

WEDNESDAY, 25 OCTOBER 1944
6 B-25s and 4 P-38s damage railroad tracks at Dara bridge in Thailand.

THURSDAY, 2 NOVEMBER 1944
100+ P-40s, P-51s, and P-38s on armed reconnaissance over SW and SE China and N French Indochina attack targets of opportunity in the Lungling and Mangshih, China area, knock out bridge at Dara, Thailand and hit Nantingshun and Pinglo, China; in China, the fighter- bombers also damage 4 factories at Kweilin, hit tanks and troop concentrations N of town, attack targets of opportunity near Pinglo, Tahsu and E of Yungfu, and the airfield, barracks, town area, and trains at Gia Lam, French Indochina.

SATURDAY, 11 NOVEMBER 1944
18 B-25s hit Phuc Yen, French Indochina, Wan Lai-Kam, Burma, and damage a bridge on the Mekong River in French Indochina. 10 B-25s bomb Kweilin Airfield in China while 4 hit Wanling, Burma. 5 B-25s and 6 P-40s attack Chingmen Airfield, China. 70+ P-40s, P-51s and P-38s over S China and N Indochina on armed reconnaissance hit targets of opportunity at several locations, concentrating on Lampang, Thailand, and the Changsha, Lingling, and Hengyang, China areas.

MONDAY, 13 NOVEMBER 1944
In Burma, 4 B-25s bomb Man Pwe while 4 others blast 3 warehouses at Wanling. 60+ P-40s, P-51s, and P-38s on armed reconnaissance over S China and as far W and SW as Burma and Thailand hit numerous targets of opportunity including shipping, troops, and railroad targets.

SATURDAY, 25 NOVEMBER 1944
75 P-40s, P-51s, and P-38s on armed reconnaissance attack river, road, and rail traffic, troops, buildings, and other targets of opportunity at several Thailand, Burma, S China, and N French Indochina locations, including areas around Bhre and Lampang, Thailand; Paoching, Ankang, Ishan, and Hochih, China; Namsang, and Mongyu, Burma; and Phu Lang Thuong, French Indochina.

SUNDAY, 26 NOVEMBER 1944
6 B-25s damage a bridge at Kengluang, Thailand.

MONDAY, 27 NOVEMBER 1944
17 B-24s bomb Gia Lam, French Indochina. 17 B-25s blast the Hochih, China area, 6 bomb Phu Lang Thuong, French Indochina, and 8 pound warehouses at Lashio, Burma. 56 P-40s, P-51s, and P-38s on armed reconnaissance over E Burma, N French Indochina, and vast areas of S China attack town areas, railroad targets, bridges and other targets of opportunity around Lampang, Thailand; Phu Binh, French Indochina; Pachai, Ishan, and Chefang, China; and Wanling, Hsenwi, and Kawnghka, Burma.

MONDAY, 27 NOVEMBER 1944
Operating from the Calcutta, India area, 55 B-29s bomb the Bangsue railroad yards at Bangkok, Thailand; 3 others hit individual targets.

THURSDAY, 30 NOVEMBER 1944
9 fighter-bombers hit shipping, rail targets, and troops at various points in Thailand.

TUESDAY, 12 DECEMBER 1944
50+ P-40s, P-51s, and P-38s on armed reconnaissance attack many targets of opportunity including town areas, road and rail traffic, and supplies at or near Wan Pa-Hsa, Burma, Chiengmai, Thailand, and Sinantien, Paoching, Hengyang, Changsha, Kweilin, Nan Tan, Hochih, and Szeenhsien, China.

WEDNESDAY, 13 DECEMBER 1944
24 P-51s and P-38s hit the town of Bac Ninh and the rail yards at Phu Lang Thuong, French Indochina, and damage a bridge at Chiengmai, Thailand

THURSDAY, 14 DECEMBER 1944
Mission 20: 48 B-29s, flying out of the Calcutta, India area, are sent to bomb a railroad bridge at Bangkok, Thailand; 33 hit the primary and 14 others hit targets of opportunity and alternate targets; they claim 0-1-0 enemy aircraft; 4 B-29s are lost.

FRIDAY, 15 DECEMBER 1944
6 B-25s blast a storage building at Kunlong, China. 5 P-51s hit and damage a bridge and a building S of Huizan, Thailand.

TUESDAY, 26 DECEMBER 1944
46 P-51s, P-38s, and P-40s hit railroad targets, shipping, storage and other targets of opportunity at or near Kinkiang, Anking, and Ka-chun, China; Lampang, Thailand; and the Mong Long Valley, and Man Pong, Burma.

TUESDAY, 2 JANUARY 1945
Mission 24: 49 B-29s, operating from the Calcutta, India area, are dispatched to attack a railroad bridge at Bangkok, Thailand; 44 hit the primary target and 2 hit an alternate and a target of opportunity; they claim 0-1-1 Japanese aircraft.

THURSDAY, 4 JANUARY 1945
8 P-51s knock out a bridge at Huizan, Thailand and damage another.

FRIDAY, 5 JANUARY 1945
5 B-25s knock out a bridge at Dara, Thailand.

FRIDAY, 26 JANUARY 1945
41 of 50 B-29s mine the 6 approaches to Singapore harbor and Penang harbor in the Malayan States and the Pakchan River and Koh Si Chang Channel in Thailand.

SATURDAY, 27 JANUARY 1945
Mission 32: 22 of 25 XX Bomber Command B-29s based in India hit the navy yard and arsenal at Saigon, French Indochina and 1 bombs a bridge at Bangkok, Thailand without loss; the results are poor.

WEDNESDAY, 7 FEBRUARY 1945
64 B-29s are dispatched to hit the Rama VI bridge at Bangkok, Thailand; 58 bomb and effect the collapse of most of middle span of the bridge (this is the 3d strike at this target) and destroy the NE approach

Source: http://www.usaaf.net/chron/index.htm

[fabianfred]

also some interesting info on Thailand and Burma actions...

http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/japan_hirose.htm

http://www.7bwb-36assn.org/492hist.html

http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2-3RAF-c12.html

http://www.warbirdforum.com/jaafhist.htm

[fabianfred]

made some final changes and have sent the map to Fly_zo for checking as a full release...

altered Mingladon a bit as large a/c had problems parking..

added a few bridges around

added airstrips at Mae Sariang, Mae Sod, Mergui ...used/attacked during retreat from Burma

added some docks at Bangkok and Moulmein

The Lal_Rone texture for the marston matting is included in the release as it is really so much better than the original black one......dirty and rusty

The objects from Canon's Channel map and Lal_Rone's hanger pack are also on the map so you need these two installed seperately if you do not already have them...

[MrOblongo]

New version looking great Fabian.!

Moulmein have a portion of the airstrip in a hill, take a look at it .