[Boris The Spider]

I was in the FMB and decided I wanted to make a mission where it was raining in the desert. Rare, true, but plausible.
Imagine my surprise when I discovered it was snowing! hock:
I tried both "Rain/Snow" and "Thunder", both with the same results. I checked other desert maps both modded and un-modded and no joy.
Anyone know of a way to make it rain? Is it the maps temperature?
Heck, I'll even do a rain dance if needed, just tell me which dance to do.

Thanks in advance.

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

You must river dance to the Benny Hill theme music whilst dressed as Grenadier Guardsman on top of Tower Bridge, backed by 40 men in the napoleonic uniform of the 42nd Blackwatch Highlands regiment, divided into two ranks of 20. They must also be doing the riverdance. However, the tartan on their kilts must alternate between Clan Fraser and Clan MacDonald, and they must all be facing directly at you. You have to get it just right or it won't work. You must be facing the river from the left hand side of tower bridge as you go leave the Houses of Parliament, and the backing dancers must be behind you. Policemen in the traditional British Bobbies' uniform must perform cheerleading routines on the flanks of the highlanders. Do this and I absolutely guarentee you'll get your rain.

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

On the subject of snow in the desert I went on a trek to morocco, and there was snow, and that was part of the Sahara... Admittedly, it was the part where the sahara collided with the atlas mountains, but even so, there was snow low down,a nd it was warmer than an average british summer day on top of the mountains! We reached the top of Jebel Sirou.



perhaps a better example (look carefully around the 'building' in the middle):

[fly_zo]

I was in the FMB and decided I wanted to make a mission where it was raining in the desert. Rare, true, but plausible.
Imagine my surprise when I discovered it was snowing! hock:
I tried both "Rain/Snow" and "Thunder", both with the same results. I checked other desert maps both modded and un-modded and no joy.
Anyone know of a way to make it rain? Is it the maps temperature?
Heck, I'll even do a rain dance if needed, just tell me which dance to do.

Thanks in advance.

it's the Month in map's load.ini :wink:

[WORLDPOS]
CAMOUFLAGE = DESERT
MONTH=6
DECLIN = 0
PRESSURE = 745
TEMPERATURE = 30


Z
p.s. but i would love to see you "rain dancing" though :wink:

[.041 Safety Wire]

On the subject of snow in the desert I went on a trek to morocco, and there was snow, and that was part of the Sahara... Admittedly, it was the part where the sahara collided with the atlas mountains, but even so, there was snow low down,a nd it was warmer than an average british summer day on top of the mountains! We reached the top of Jebel Sirou.



perhaps a better example (look carefully around the 'building' in the middle):

As a young man back in the 70,s I recall dropping a friend off at the Algerian border in the Aures Mtns of Western Tunisia and there was a raging blizzard happening. Ended up camping at a beautiful cork forest just outside of Tabarka.

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

wow, sounds excellent!

[Jabo]

You must river dance to the Benny Hill theme music whilst dressed as Grenadier Guardsman on top of Tower Bridge, backed by 40 men in the napoleonic uniform of the 74th Blackwatch Highlands regiment, divided into two ranks of 20. They must also be doing the riverdance. However, the tartan on their kilts must alternate between Clan Fraser and Clan MacDonald, and they must all be facing directly at you. You have to get it just right or it won't work. You must be facing the river from the left hand side of tower bridge as you go leave the Houses of Parliament, and the backing dancers must be behind you. Policemen in the traditional British Bobbies' uniform must perform cheerleading routines on the flanks of the highlanders. Do this and I absolutely guarentee you'll get your rain.

Whoaa! Til now I thought the rain dance of the S.W. merican natives was a sight to behold, but what you describe is a definite topper.

[.041 Safety Wire]

Yes,

I was fortunate enough to live on the Continent for a total of five years, three were spent in Zaire which is now the Congo and two in Tunisia, Spent considerable time in both the mountain and desert regions. Not to mention the jungles of central Africa.

[Boris The Spider]

it's the Month in map's load.ini :wink:

[WORLDPOS]
CAMOUFLAGE = DESERT
MONTH=6
DECLIN = 0
PRESSURE = 745
TEMPERATURE = 30


Z
p.s. but i would love to see you "rain dancing" though :wink:

Before I dance for you you must tell me which month produces the rain. I find it odd that June produces snow. Lybia is at the equator and June should be a warm month.

Please, I beg of you, help me think like Oleg.

Then, maybe, if you are very nice and the moon is in the 7th house when Jupiter aligns with Mars, then I will dance for you.

:wink: :wink:

[fly_zo]

it's the Month in map's load.ini :wink:

[WORLDPOS]
CAMOUFLAGE = DESERT
MONTH=6
DECLIN = 0
PRESSURE = 745
TEMPERATURE = 30


Z
p.s. but i would love to see you "rain dancing" though :wink:

Before I dance for you you must tell me which month produces the rain. I find it odd that June produces snow. Lybia is at the equator and June should be a warm month.

Please, I beg of you, help me think like Oleg.

Then, maybe, if you are very nice and the moon is in the 7th house when Jupiter aligns with Mars, then I will dance for you.

:wink: :wink:

this is part of my load.ini ( sands of time ) and i'm getting rain in both settings ( rain/snow and thunder) ... Oleg's world is whole on northern hemisphere ... no equator i'm afraid :wink:

Code:

[MAP]
ColorMap  = map_c.tga
HeightMap = map_h.tga
SmallMap  = map_M.tga
TypeMap   = map_T.tga
FarMap    = map_F.tga
ReflMap   = map_R.tga

[LIGHT]
  LandLight = LandLight.mat
  CloudShadows = CloudShadows.mat

[MAP2D]
ed_m02.tga
ed_m01.tga


[WORLDPOS]
CAMOUFLAGE = DESERT
MONTH=6
DECLIN = 0
PRESSURE    = 745
TEMPERATURE =  30

[CUBE]
Down  = Cube_bott.tga
East  = Cube_right.tga
North = Cube_front.tga
South = Cube_back.tga
Up    = Cube_top.tga
West  = Cube_left.tga

[static]
actors.static
[text]
texts.txt

[WOOD]
Wood0  = forest/summer/Wood0.tga
Wood1  = forest/summer/Wood1.tga
Wood2  = forest/summer/Wood2.tga
Wood3  = forest/summer/Wood3.tga
Wood4  = forest/summer/Wood4.tga
WoodMask2  = forest/summer/ForestMask.tga
WoodMask3  = forest/summer/ForestMask2.tga
WoodMiniMasks = forest/summer/MiniMask.tga
SideWood = forest/summer/ForestSide.tga

[APPENDIX]
  HighClouds  = Clouds256.tga
  HighCloudsNoise  = CloudsNoise.tga
//  CloudsMap  = CloudMap4x4km.tga
  Moon = Moon\Moon0000.tga
  ShadeNoise = land/SandNoise.tga
  WaterNoise = water/WaterNoise.tga
  WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga
  ForestNoise= forest/summer/ListForestNoise.tga

[Boris The Spider]

fly_zo, you are brilliant! I went into the load.ini file for the Lybia_NE map and discovered that the month was set to '3'. I changed it to '6' and now I have rain, sweet beautiful rain!
THANK YOU!
Now, the stock Desert Online map still gives me snow. Do I need to use the .sfs extractor to get at that load.ini or is there another way to change the month? I'm betting it's something other than '6'.
This of course begs the question, why didn't 1C make the desert map(s) have rain instead of snow? (Now if he had given us a Kilimanjaro map...)

Oh well, at least I now know how to change the weather for mod maps. Kinda makes me feel a little god-like. That's an interesting feeling. Sort of like having a "Black & White" moment if you will.

Thanks again! (insert bowing emoticon here)

[Carnagexxx]

That should be a mod for all non-winter maps
I always hated that when I fly over the pazifik i get snow when I choose rain

[Boris The Spider]

...Now, the stock Desert Online map still gives me snow. Do I need to use the .sfs extractor to get at that load.ini or is there another way to change the month? I'm betting it's something other than '6'.

Well I fixed that too. The "Desert" folder in MODS/MAPMODS had "3" set as the month and by changing it to "6" I now get rain on the Online Desert map.
These fixes may not hold true in the un-modded game. I haven't checked that yet but since I rarely fly the un-modded game anymore I don't think it will be a big deal for me.

Further snooping at load.ini files showed that most of Mod desert maps already have the month equaling "6" so all is good there.

[fly_zo]

Desert map default load.ini ....copy lines to new txt file ...make your changes...rename to load.ini and place it to :

....Mods\mapmods\maps\desert\

Code:

[MAP]
ColorMap  = map_c.tga
HeightMap = map_h.tga
SmallMap  = map_M.tga
TypeMap   = map_T.tga
FarMap    = map_F.tga
ReflMap   = map_R.tga

[LIGHT]
  LandLight = LandLight.mat
  CloudShadows = CloudShadows.mat

[MAP2D]
ed_m02.tga
ed_m01.tga


[WORLDPOS]
CAMOUFLAGE = SUMMER
MONTH=3
DECLIN = 37
PRESSURE    = 745
TEMPERATURE =  25

[CUBE]
Down  = Cube_bott.tga
East  = Cube_right.tga
North = Cube_front.tga
South = Cube_back.tga
Up    = Cube_top.tga
West  = Cube_left.tga

[static]
actors.static
[text]
texts.txt

[WOOD]
Wood0  = forest/summer/Wood0.tga
Wood1  = forest/summer/Wood1.tga
Wood2  = forest/summer/Wood2.tga
Wood3  = forest/summer/Wood3.tga
Wood4  = forest/summer/Wood4.tga
WoodMask2  = forest/summer/ForestMask.tga
WoodMask3  = forest/summer/ForestMask2.tga
WoodMiniMasks = forest/summer/MiniMask.tga
SideWood = forest/summer/ForestSide.tga

[APPENDIX]
  HighClouds  = Clouds256.tga
  HighCloudsNoise  = CloudsNoise.tga
//  CloudsMap  = CloudMap4x4km.tga
  Moon = Moon\Moon0000.tga
  ShadeNoise = land/Noise.tga
  WaterNoise = water/WaterNoise.tga
  WaterNoiseAnimStart = Water/Animated/WaterNoise00.tga
  ForestNoise= forest/summer/ListForestNoise.tga
  BeachFoam  = water/Foam.tga
  BeachSurf  = water/BeachSurf.tga
  BeachLand  = water/RiverLand.tga
  Tree0 = Trees\AlteredBush8a.tga
  TreeLightMask = Trees\LightM256.tga

[WATER]
Water    = water/PacificWater.tga
WaterColorATI = 0.140 0.195 0.230
//WaterColorATI = 0.150 0.225 0.180
WaterColorNV  = 0.140 0.205 0.268
//WaterColorNV  = 0.165 0.264 0.233



[ROADS]
Rail     = land/summer/Rail
Road     = land/summer/Road
Highway  = land/summer/Highway

[FIELDS]
LowLand0 = land/summer/macchia_dry.tga,2
LowLand1 = land/summer/LowLand_2neu.tga
LowLand2 =
LowLand3 = land/summer/macchia_neu3.tga,2
MidLand0 = land/summer/dry2_v1.tga,2
MidLand1 = land/summer/dry2_v2.tga,2
MidLand2 = land/summer/dry1.tga,2
MidLand3 = land/summer/fields_dry.tga,2
Mount0   =
Mount1   = land/summer/fields_dry2a.tga, 2
Mount2   =
Mount3   = land/summer/mount_top2.tga
Country0 = land/summer/bigcountry_dry2.tga,2
Country1 =
Country2 =
Country3 =
City0    =
City1    =
City2    =
City3    =
AirField0= land/summer/fields_airfieldDesert.tga
AirField1=
AirField2=
AirField3=
Wood0    = forest/summer/forestGr.tga
Wood1    =
Wood2    = forest/summer/ForestFar.tga
Wood3    =
Water0   = water/water.tga
Water1   = water/water.tga
Water2   = water/CoastLine.tga
Water3   = water/dune_beach.tga