anyone making ??? Arado Ar E381
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Another novel idea during the Second World War was the proposed design of the Arado Ar E381 interceptor aircraft. The design of this WW2 German aircraft was that of a parasite-type plane that will be carried on the underside of the larger Ar 234 jet-powered bomber and then released once the desired altitude for attack has been reached.

The design of the Ar E381 is so small that the pilot has to fly and control the plane in a prone position. This position is necessary to make the plane as aerodynamic as possible. The pilot will not be requiring the use of a normal cockpit but will use an armored glass screen as his means of viewing the enemy bombers.

The Arado Aircraft Firm had conceptualized the Ar E381 to be a small, lightweight plane that will be attached to the Ar 234 bomber and be carried to altitudes of about 1000 meters. Once the altitude is reached and the coupled planes are above enemy bomber formations, the Ar E381 is released and will dive at speeds of up to 510 mph. During the dive, the pilot of this WW2 aircraft will then attack the closest enemy bomber aircraft using either the single 30mm cannon or six RZ65 OR 73 spin-stabilized air to air rockets which can be fired off the wing leading edges. The use of a Walter HWK 509B rocket motor can allow the Ar E381 to fly in for another attack on the bomber formation. After the attack, the Ar E381 will then have to glide home and land on a single skid attached along the bottom of the fuselage with the help of a deployed parachute.



[Image: Arado-Ar-E381.jpg]


[Image: Arado-Ar-E381-2.jpg]




Allied Codename: none
Type: single man
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#2

Nice find!

Maybe this will happen one day.
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#3

What will happen is that this post will be moved to IL2 Mod discussion forum
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#4

http://www.luft46.com/arado/are381.html

Some of these German late war "uber" ideas were too complicated to make them work, this seem to be one of them IMHO.
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#5

I have these information at one of my aircraft request library with reference materials at viewtopic.php?t=7788. If you check Ar E.381 in the list and if you have more information that you wish to be added to that list, please let me know and I will be more than glad to add them to ths list.


Chaoic out...
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#6

that picture is doctored.
this was a project but this picture is not of the real thing.
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Radoye Wrote:http://www.luft46.com/arado/are381.html

Some of these German late war "uber" ideas were too complicated to make them work, this seem to be one of them IMHO.

Couldn't this be viewed as simplifying the process as you don't have to create complicated landing gear and you eliminate the takeoff?
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#8

Doesn't this seem like an aircraft that could be created as a modification of the existing Japanese Okha/BI-1 ?
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#9

Great idea, but, is it possible to create (or modify the ar-234B) into Ar-234C, the B version has 2 Jumo-Junkers 004B engines whereas the C version has 4 BMW003 engines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arado_Ar_234 (to watch differences between B and C versions)

Links for BMW003 and Jumo Junkers 004B turbojets to compare them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_003

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Jumo_004
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#10

RealDarko Wrote:What will happen is that this post will be moved to IL2 Mod discussion forum

Thats right. Infact, request posts like this would probably be deleted if posted in the WIP section, as per the warnings posted...

Bigmike, you've been here long enough to know how it works around here - this thread's moved, but next time...

Do post in the correct sections... :?
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struwwelpeter Wrote:
Radoye Wrote:http://www.luft46.com/arado/are381.html

Some of these German late war "uber" ideas were too complicated to make them work, this seem to be one of them IMHO.

Couldn't this be viewed as simplifying the process as you don't have to create complicated landing gear and you eliminate the takeoff?
But in the long run it's more expensive running two craft simultaneously (one for takeof, the other actual fighter) than just one w/gear and all. First, you use more fuel (but this is probably necessary because of the limitations of the rocket engines - and it's exactly the reason why rocket powered fighters aren't used nowadays anymore) and also you need two pilots and pilots were the commodity Germany could not afford to waste. So instead of putting up TWO jet fighters they fly one useless unarmed jet carrier plane, and one short range rocket interceptor for roughly the same cost.

I'd rather have two jets...
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#12

As much as I like the wonder weapons, I wish we only had "Real" airplanes in IL2 (despite the Lerche etc already being there)... makes it feel too "arcade-ish", but to each their own Smile Could spin off a version with just the drawing board weapons!
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