15.01.2009, 19:43
I was wondering if anyone was up to the job of making a b-36 peacemaker for il2.
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Request B-36 peacemaker
15.01.2009, 19:56
Holy toledo, what a lot of work. I love this plane...but I think Il2 can only handle eight engines and the jet version has ten.
15.01.2009, 20:01
Great bird, it's so bloody macho it almost hurts. I'd love to see her in there but on the other hand IL2 is strictly a WWII sim, the B-36 is slightly too post WWII for inclusion atm IMHO.
That said, IL2 could probably be modded (it'll take a lot of tweaking to get supersonic simulation right) into a post WWII/cold war sim (would be nice 8) ). It would be whole different ballgame though.
That said, IL2 could probably be modded (it'll take a lot of tweaking to get supersonic simulation right) into a post WWII/cold war sim (would be nice 8) ). It would be whole different ballgame though.
15.01.2009, 20:01
Оооооо it is really SEVERE stuff 
Will be much appreciated if someone wiil embark on making a 6 engine version (piston eng.only)
Will be much appreciated if someone wiil embark on making a 6 engine version (piston eng.only)
15.01.2009, 20:03
B-36 was being making since 1942 or 43 i remember=>it is not only pre-cold war plane
15.01.2009, 20:18
rust Wrote:B-36 was being making since 1942 or 43 i remember=>it is not only pre-cold war plane
Yes, I believe you're right. If my memory serves me right (plz correct me if I'm wrong), the B-36 was initially designed for bomber sorties on the 3rd Reich from US bases, hence the transatlantic+ capability.
15.01.2009, 21:57
+10000000 please`somone make this plane!
15.01.2009, 23:02
rust Wrote:B-36 was being making since 1942 or 43 i remember=>it is not only pre-cold war planeWhat?? First flight of the XB-36 prototype was in August 1946, a year after the end of WW2, and was found to be somewhat underpowered. The second prototype, the much improved YB-36 which was the pattern for first production aircraft, first flew in December 1947.
15.01.2009, 23:06
The turrets are also retractable and remotely sited, don't know if that would be possible.
15.01.2009, 23:12
zoo_heathen Wrote:The turrets are also retractable and remotely sited, don't know if that would be possible.
Of course it is - just look at the B-29 for the remote sighting, and the B-24 for retractable turrets.
15.01.2009, 23:25
zoo_heathen Wrote:Holy toledo, what a lot of work. I love this plane...but I think Il2 can only handle eight engines and the jet version has ten.
Just pair up the two jets in each pod as a single engine.
16.01.2009, 00:41
Well there ya go. Might be useful for 1946 scenarios.
16.01.2009, 07:45
This plane is epic. Don't forget that it's early adversaries are available, Mig-9 and Yak-15 for example, so it's not in the least irrelevant.
16.01.2009, 13:18
from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-36
http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/B36_Home.htm
Design of the XB-36 prototype began at Consolidated Aircraft in San Diego
The original contract for it was let in 1941
In 1941, the fall of Britain to a German invasion seemed imminent. This would have left the United States Army Air Corps (AAC) with no bases in Europe from which to bomb Germany. American bombers would have had to reach Europe from bases in North America, necessitating a combat range of at least 5,700 miles (9,200 km),
The United States Army Air Corps opened up a design competition for the very long-range bomber on 11 April 1941, for a maximum range of 10,000 miles (16,000 km), an effective combat radius of 4,000 miles (6,400 km) with a 10,000 pound bombload, a cruising speed between 240 and 300 mph (480 km/h), and a service ceiling of 40,000 ft
The XB-36 flew for the first time in August 1946. The first production version of the B-36 took to the air approximately one year later.
The Peacemaker was the first true intercontinental bomber, with a maximum payload of 86,000 pounds and a maximum range of more than 6,800 miles, unrefueled. Flights of over 24 hours weren't unusual, and the B-36 set several world records
The wings of the B-36 were large even when compared with present-day aircraft, exceeding, for example, those of the C-5 Galaxy, and enabled the B-36 to carry enough fuel to fly very long missions without refueling. The wing area permitted cruising altitudes above the operating ceiling of 1940s-era fighters, jet as well as piston. All versions of the B-36 could cruise at over 40,000 ft (12,000 m) B-36 mission logs commonly recorded mock attacks against U.S. cities while flying at 49,000. In 1954, the turrets and other nonessential equipment were removed, resulting in a "featherweight" configuration believed to have resulted in a top speed of 423 mph (700 km/h),[14] and cruise at 50,000 ft (15,000 m) and dash at over 55,000ft (16,800M), perhaps even higher
Production totaled 385 aircraft. The final aircraft - B-36J #52-2827A, now undergoing restoration at Lockheed Fort Worth Company - was delivered on August 11, 1954. The last B-36 was retired from active service on February 12, 1959
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-36
http://www.cowtown.net/proweb/B36_Home.htm
Design of the XB-36 prototype began at Consolidated Aircraft in San Diego
The original contract for it was let in 1941
In 1941, the fall of Britain to a German invasion seemed imminent. This would have left the United States Army Air Corps (AAC) with no bases in Europe from which to bomb Germany. American bombers would have had to reach Europe from bases in North America, necessitating a combat range of at least 5,700 miles (9,200 km),
The United States Army Air Corps opened up a design competition for the very long-range bomber on 11 April 1941, for a maximum range of 10,000 miles (16,000 km), an effective combat radius of 4,000 miles (6,400 km) with a 10,000 pound bombload, a cruising speed between 240 and 300 mph (480 km/h), and a service ceiling of 40,000 ft
The XB-36 flew for the first time in August 1946. The first production version of the B-36 took to the air approximately one year later.
The Peacemaker was the first true intercontinental bomber, with a maximum payload of 86,000 pounds and a maximum range of more than 6,800 miles, unrefueled. Flights of over 24 hours weren't unusual, and the B-36 set several world records
The wings of the B-36 were large even when compared with present-day aircraft, exceeding, for example, those of the C-5 Galaxy, and enabled the B-36 to carry enough fuel to fly very long missions without refueling. The wing area permitted cruising altitudes above the operating ceiling of 1940s-era fighters, jet as well as piston. All versions of the B-36 could cruise at over 40,000 ft (12,000 m) B-36 mission logs commonly recorded mock attacks against U.S. cities while flying at 49,000. In 1954, the turrets and other nonessential equipment were removed, resulting in a "featherweight" configuration believed to have resulted in a top speed of 423 mph (700 km/h),[14] and cruise at 50,000 ft (15,000 m) and dash at over 55,000ft (16,800M), perhaps even higher
Production totaled 385 aircraft. The final aircraft - B-36J #52-2827A, now undergoing restoration at Lockheed Fort Worth Company - was delivered on August 11, 1954. The last B-36 was retired from active service on February 12, 1959
16.01.2009, 15:35
RichardHed Wrote:from
The original contract for it was let in 1941
...
The United States Army Air Corps opened up a design competition for the very long-range bomber on 11 April 1941, for a maximum range of 10,000 miles (16,000 km), an effective combat radius of 4,000 miles (6,400 km) with a 10,000 pound bombload, a cruising speed between 240 and 300 mph (480 km/h), and a service ceiling of 40,000 ft
This means nothing. The fact that they wished for such a plane in 1941 does not make it a WW2 plane. What is relevant is the first flight date and even more the first operational delivery date.
What i mean is, the USAF could today wish for a plane capable of Warp 8 and armed with photon torpedoes, but until such a thing actually takes to the air for the first time (not counting Star Trek series) it is only a wish, it doesn't really exist.
Neither did the B-36 exist in 1941.
I'm not saying it doesn't deserve to be modded - it does, it's an awesome and interesting plane, so huge that makes the B-29 look like a toy - but it is NOT a WW2 plane, not by a long shot.
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