[Triad773]

With new planes like the XP-86, I expect there are lots more people flying jets than before. I myself among them

I wanted to start a thread to have a place to share what works, and what doesn't with flying what was at the time new technology that could prove unreliable :oops:

I've been doing loads of research on what doesn't work and doing a wonderful job I might add. I've also had some great flights using techniques via trial and error. I think it would be great to share what we have all discovered.

What I have discovered thus far

CON
- When in a dive, NEVER cut your throttle to zero or you will stall out your engine :oops:

- When using throttle, you might start the engine on fire if you keep it at full too long :oops:

- If you've had your engine cut out on you in flight, best to assess your E situation to see if you want to bail or if you can dead-stick and land somewhere :oops:

PRO
- When starting up, be sure to give your turbines time to wind up to max rpm. Set your breaks and run up to 30%, then 60% letting the engine catch up. Release breaks and get rolling, Throttle up slowly, set trim tabs to full up, and flaps for takeoff. You're up and off 8)

- I have found that keeping the throttle below 80% works, and use very conservative movement in the throttle generally 8)

- When landing, as soon as I have the plane on the ground level, I push the stick forward to reduce my rollout, then tap wheel breaks. This keeps me from overshooting the end of the runway 8)

Well that's just a few of what I had discovered. I am looking forward to see what others have discovered too

Cheers

Triad

[US_GRANT]

I have found that when landing, once I've gotten on the ground, I raise the flaps all the way and just apply the brakes without tapping them. this slows you down very quickly and you don't topple either. Of course, this only works with planes that are equipped with nose gear not tail draggers.

Throttle.
YP-80, Me-262, He-162, all require you watch the throttle. MiG-9, Ta-183, you can yank the throttle around with no problem. Also, with the YP-80, if you go over 100%, you WILL stall the engine, period, no matter how slow you move it.

[Stratodog]

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[Triad773]

Cool! Keep em coming

I just pilfered this from someone on another board on a related subject:

Jets are a completely different style of flying than props. When flying them I've picked up a few tips:
Throttle up too quickly, or you will cause a fire (no brainer). Throttle down too quickly and your engine will die. When going slowly (i.e. takeoff) I set the throttle no higher than 80% (no smoke or blue flame is visible). I keep brakes on until I get to 80% power, then roll out without flaps, and add them only right before I rotate. Only once I achieve about 500 kts I put in 100%. At these speeds there is sufficient cooling of the engines. Once in a dogfight I never go below 600kts (it should be 700, but I'm a lazy flier). This is especially vital for the LaGG. If you slow down, you will not likely get that speed again, which is a death note in dogfights. Speed will protect you in more ways than one. Of course, it keeps your e up, and makes you hard to catch, but it also keeps any engine fires out (no need to bail from your 262 just yet). I always use a lot of down trim, and I never use the elevators in a turn. I just roll, and the plane will turn naturally with its own lift without loosing much E. Sometimes without enough trim I even push down to keep the turn wider. This is especially vital for the Go-229. If you pull at all above 700, say goodbye to your wings.

Borrowed from Romanator21 on the Ubi boards

I need all the help I can get :oops: I will try all this out and report what works for me or not.

[luther01]

triad 773 the guy who wrote the post made a mistake because there is no plane in il-2 that can maintain 600kts. This is about 600-700mp/h or 1300km/h. even in a dive that is pushing it let alone in a dogfight, but he is right about maintaining hgh airspeed. i think he confused kts and km/h

[Triad773]

triad 773 the guy who wrote the post made a mistake because there is no plane in il-2 that can maintain 600kts. This is about 600-700mp/h or 1300km/h. even in a dive that is pushing it let alone in a dogfight, but he is right about maintaining hgh airspeed. i think he confused kts and km/h

Good point Luther- had not thought about that :lol:

All I know is I had felt pretty lost when it comes to flying jets in IL-2 before, but slowly a picture is coming together 8) That and the FM for the F-80A MOD I am finding a nice improvement from the YP-80: I can restart in air. I even turned my engine off, then on again! A great relief, and hopefully a sign of things to come with FM.

I hope other people find this as useful as I do.

Thanks for all the replies thus far

[V3N0M1300]

Any advice for dogfighting with the Ho IX (can't remember what it's called in-game, GO226 or something)?

[Nocturnum]

i found the point about maintaining high-speed to avoid overheat to bev ery useful. As luther1 pointed out, the figures seem wrong but the concept works. I tend to fly at about 90 to 100% throttle, only in QMBs so no long flight times or anything, but I find that keeping speed high makes all the difference.
it really has been a lot of fun learning these jets.

[luther01]

the jets are all about high airspeed. that is their advantage over prop planes lose that and you lose the fight. the g0-229 is slow to accelerate, so when you reach high speed you cannot afford to be bleeding it off in sharp turns. maintain airspeed and you keep the advantage