[whiskey111]

Long, long, long, long...
... and long time ago someone wrote on this forum that is creating a big map of europe 1:1 scale. And what... ? We have a beautiful maps of outskirts of the world where WW2 just touched those regions, but we don't have any one good map 1:1 of europe for long escort missions from England to somewhere.

Is this possible that someone is enough hard to create this masterpiece ?

[mandrill7]

1:1 map of Europe would be so large, it would not load.

When Waggels' North Sea map comes along, we can do missions to bomb Hamburg and Bremen.

[agracier]

Besides being too large to load, most of western Europe at any rate, is so flat and devoid of interesting terrain features, that it would necessitate an enormous amount of objects and cities and towns and roads to make it interesting to use as anything other than a df map ...

I tried doing a map of Belgium just to see what it looked like and it was so flat that there was no feel to flying in a 3D world ...

But all that aside, you are right that map makers don't seem to take to Europe in general ...

[Baco1170]

But mostlly, it has a very dense population, meaning that you would need to model lots of towns and cities, and other features, like farms anr roads, that the sheer number of objects would make the map imposible to load. Unlles you go for textured cities and very few 3D objects, making it look like FS 98...Witch to my tatste would be unacceptable.

[Lejo]

As mentioned by Mandrill Waggel is working on a Western European map. Maybug also on more or less the same area. Asheshouse made one (or two?) maps of Western Europe (Northern France, Belgium, Netherlands) and of course Canonuk with his version of BoB.
I don't think it's very popular among many map makers 'cause it is very labour intensive because of all the cities, roads, railways, bridges etc.

[whiskey111]

Ok, it's not necessary to do map with all countries in Europe, but what about England and northern France 1:1 ? Or about Ardennes 1944 1:1 ? This map of Ardennes what we have is smaller than my town We need at last good maps for all those big battles.

From this day, we have even map of Gibraltar. Cool, know we can make a mission of hunting U-96
What famous battles was in that area ? Maybe I missed something.

We stil don't have a map for the Big Beginning of WW2 - Poland vs Germany. Hundreds of aircrafts, tanks etc. Big air battles near Warsaw. What about this ?
Common guys, stop killing this game by doing beautiful maps of beautiful places. I have MFS for watching pretty views.

And about doing all particulars (villages, little roads, little rivers), common ! It's not necessary to put everything on map. If I wanna see a building in some other city - I will go to google earth

... and please, don't write me "do it by yourself"

[kapteeni]

... and please, don't write me "do it by yourself"

You can ask Mrs Whiskey to help....

[I/JG27_Waggel]

At the moment i am stoned in Amsterdam and all i`ve got to find my way home is a part of my f... map_C 8o)

[Bearkiller72]

Amsterdam? Damn! Oh Mann, das waren noch Zeiten/Those were the days!
:lol: 8)
(Anyway, while you're at it, why don't you just move down a little to the south and make a simple yet nice Rhein-Main map....bidddeeee! :wink: )

[whiskey111]

When you will finish this map it will be great one.
We need more maps like this.

I have a qusetion: what is the maximum size of map, which can be done, in il2 (in kilometers) ?

[JAMF]

At the moment i am stoned in Amsterdam and all i`ve got to find my way home is a part of my f... map_C 8o)

Hehehe Don't fall in the grachten and be careful when crossing the street stoned. The trams and cyclist can't see your "state". It's best to have a guide, who can guide you to the Vondelpark in the sun, where you can lie down and be stoned. 8)

[Checkyersix]

For this type of map, I think it would best NOT to model cities, except for ground textures. Just the industrial sections would suffice, because most of the missions flown on these maps would be high altitude bombing runs or bomber escorts. Personally, I'd be less interested in getting the cities right than in getting them in the right place. Not to mention night bombing missions, where the individual buildings would matter even less.

The Rom_City textures already have houses drawn on them, so from height they look ok.

A map with nothing on it save airfields and industry could be as big as Coral Sea and play almost as well...

[I/JG27_Waggel]

Pas op ... zwenkt uit ... let op drempels

There could be an offline version with city objects and an online version without citiy objects. This whould be no problem. With finished map_c and without a big static ini I whould calculate the size of the map to 60mb. This whould be good for online servers. The meditarrenian map has the same size and it runs good.

[mandrill7]

Okay, Bearkiller. You're doing the Ruhr-Rhine area as your first project. You are going to have so many urban areas, your FPS rate is going to be about 2.5 over most of your map!!!

Waggel, I expect some serious "inspiration" from you when I see your map! (Hopefully, not Amsterdam under some permanent purple cloud cover with pink and orange buildings!)

[whiskey111]

A map with nothing on it save airfields and industry could be as big as Coral Sea and play almost as well...

Yeah... I dream about a map of Europe (England and France) 1:1 as big as coral sea map. I don't care about all particulares details. The biggest cities and towns, biggets rivers etc. And just fly long, high altitude missions. This all particulars are not visible from 8000m :/