[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

Also those heavy mortars were used on city's i remember that i've saw a very rare footage were those mortars were mounted on the stug..tank

The super-heavy mortars were not mounted on StuG chassies! Definitely not! A StuG was an assault gun, essentially a support gun mounted on a standard German tank chassis (i believe a Panzer IV, but it may have been a Panzer III -- it depends on whether the StuG was a StuG III or IV). Anyway, the super-heavy mortars were mounted on massive tracked platforms that could hook up to railway bogeys for transportation. The mortars were 600mm calibre, i believe, and were used variously on the eastern front and during the battle of the bulge as well.


Interesting video, thanks!

[nuk3m]

Also those heavy mortars were used on city's i remember that i've saw a very rare footage were those mortars were mounted on the stug..tank

The super-heavy mortars were not mounted on StuG chassies! Definitely not! A StuG was an assault gun, essentially a support gun mounted on a standard German tank chassis (i believe a Panzer IV, but it may have been a Panzer III -- it depends on whether the StuG was a StuG III or IV). Anyway, the super-heavy mortars were mounted on massive tracked platforms that could hook up to railway bogeys for transportation. The mortars were 600mm calibre, i believe, and were used variously on the eastern front and during the battle of the bulge as well.


Interesting video, thanks!

Hey man stay calm the video wasn't so clear to see the chasis...but from the rear it looked like the chasis of a stug 3 and i know that stug 3 was an antitank tank..but maybe i'm wrong i forget to put an "i think" but it's ok...when i will find that video i will show...u maybe i'm right maybe i'm wrong...
best regards
ysy

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

Hey man stay calm the video wasn't so clear to see the chasis...but from the rear it looked like the chasis of a stug 3 and i know that stug 3 was an antitank tank..but maybe i'm wrong i forget to put an "i think" but it's ok...when i will find that video i will show...u maybe i'm right maybe i'm wrong...
best regards
ysy

Ach, really sorry, watched the video again. The mortars i was going on about are like the one shown at 2:00 -- the super-heavy mortars. The one i think you meant was the tank at 0:30. It looks like a sturmtiger, a tiger tank converted to a large calibre assault gun. My appologies for getting confused! :S

[bohr-r]

Hello all,

If I remember correctly, one or two of these enormous railway guns were used in the Crimea, in the siege of Sevastopol.
In regard to large guns or mortars being mounted on tank chassis, there was a turretless version of the Tiger I, called the "Sturmtiger" with a box-like superstructure and a huge, stubby mortar that fired a large rocket projectile. These armored vehicles were supposed to be used in confined spaces, such as urban areas, and against bunkers. There was also a version of the Pz IV, that looked similar to the Sturmtiger. This thing was called "Brummbaer". I had a 1:35 scale model of it as a kid, but I don't remember what kind of armament it carried. Had a model of the Goliath, too.

Regards,

RB

[Messer]

There's two "big guns" in the video, the large railroad cannon and a super mortar (can't remember the exact size, but I think the gun was 480mm and the mortar over 600mm). Both types were used in the destruction of Sevastopol , which had a very strong network of concrete bunkers, artillery pieces and even large calibre guns from the WWI Russian Dreadnaughts. The city was completely destroyed during the war...

Essentially those were the early-war German super weapons. While extremely devastating and outclassing a battleship in firepower, it turned out that both were too difficult to transport and they could only be used in prolonged sieges, and at sites that had railroad networks...

Two of the railroad cannons were used against the Allies in Anzio and hid in some mountainous tunels after each shot, to avoid being spotted by Allied airplanes (the reload time was huge).

[BF-109 F4]

Don't we have the Karl Gerat in game?

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

There's two "big guns" in the video, the large railroad cannon and a super mortar (can't remember the exact size, but I think the gun was 480mm and the mortar over 600mm). Both types were used in the destruction of Sevastopol , which had a very strong network of concrete bunkers, artillery pieces and even large calibre guns from the WWI Russian Dreadnaughts. The city was completely destroyed during the war...

Essentially those were the early-war German super weapons. While extremely devastating and outclassing a battleship in firepower, it turned out that both were too difficult to transport and they could only be used in prolonged sieges, and at sites that had railroad networks...

Two of the railroad cannons were used against the Allies in Anzio and hid in some mountainous tunels after each shot, to avoid being spotted by Allied airplanes (the reload time was huge).

I reckon the railway gun shown was Schwerer Gustav, all 800mm of its gun calibre.

The other thing about the super heavy weapons was that they could only fire a very limited number of projectiles before they had to be take back to the factory for their barrels to be overhauled.

[rossmum]

The Germans had a variety of railway guns, from what I recall. I've personally seen one of the smaller ones, but both the Schwerer Gustav and its sister gun (Dora, I think?) were apparently disassembled and lost. Both of those were 800mm guns and had a ridiculously large gun crew; they required their own special railway line with several sets of tracks, and the shells were about the size of a man (if not larger). The gun was incredibly unwieldy as you can probably imagine and didn't fire very fast, but it had a mind-boggling range and the shells were capable of wreaking colossal damage. One was used at Sevastopol, can't remember what became of the other.

[HolyGrail]

Great infos guys !! ,
keep 'em coming !! this thing was completely out of this world :lol:
Holy sh!t !! unrealistic size :lol:
80_cm_Gustav_shell_compared_to_T-34 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[highlander_262]

Remember seeing a kit of a dora in 1/35 at a local model show a couple of years back :roll:



Then I found out there was a 1/16 limited kit out there :? then there's a guy called Peter Shaw has scratch built a 1/6 scale one, yes one sixth hock:

[bohr-r]

Hello all,

Bf-109 F-4 asked if we don't have the Karl Geraet in the game. I think we do, but only as an object, not as a functional artillery piece. I tried to set up a spotter mission once, where the player was supposed to fly over a target area that was under fire by two of those Karl mortars. However, I couldn't get those mortars to fire. So I believe, they don't actually work as artillery pieces in-game. Did someone else get them to work, perhaps? If not, could they be made to function through a mod? Perhaps, someone might even be interested in building the Dora railway gun for the game?

Regards,

RB

[HolyGrail]

bohr-r
Ha ha that's getting interesting , so we can get screenshot to see
how this huge gun thingy looks ingame ?
Can you get some screenshot of it even thou it is only a static object ? please !!
I am not good with FMB :oops:

THX

S! HG

[P/O W. 'Moggy' Cattermole]

Yep, would be interesting to see!

[Guest]

Yep, would be interesting to see!

Yeah, I'd love to see this thing in game! :wink:

[BF-109 F4]

Hello all,

Bf-109 F-4 asked if we don't have the Karl Geraet in the game. I think we do, but only as an object, not as a functional artillery piece. I tried to set up a spotter mission once, where the player was supposed to fly over a target area that was under fire by two of those Karl mortars. However, I couldn't get those mortars to fire. So I believe, they don't actually work as artillery pieces in-game. Did someone else get them to work, perhaps? If not, could they be made to function through a mod? Perhaps, someone might even be interested in building the Dora railway gun for the game?

Regards,

RB

I'm sorry but you're wrong m8, i made a mission with one of those guns targeting a village and it actually worked but the reload is very very slow. I don't remember when i did that mission, possibly when i still had the IL2 ace expansion pack, maybe the new versions made some changes? Strangely i don't remember the power and damage the gun could do.