[steel9898]

Hello everyone

First post here and I'd like to start off by first thanking everyone who contributed to making such a brillant mod for IL-2. I've been enjoying it for several months now and it's made my IL-2 playtime ten times more fun thank you! :thumbsup:

I need some help with a problem I'm having running IL-2 on a new computer I got recently. I've tried a search on this forum and on the internet in general for the last hour and a half but I can't seem to find anything that's a similar situation to mine. I have an ATI radeon HD4850 and I am struggling to run the game in opengl on perfect settings. My problem is that when I setup the video options for opengl and select perfect I fire up the game and all I can see is my cockpit and statics on the ground like houses or airfields. Everything else is just black there's no sky, ground or sea just this blackness, I haven't a clue why it's happening I only know that it happens when I select the perfect landscape detail in the video options.

If I just select the 'excellent' options the game runs fine it only happens when perfect is selected, I've tried turning down graphic options or turning them up in the setup program and I've lost count of the amount of times I've tinkered with the conf. file but nothing I do can get rid of this black problem. I'm running IL-2 1946 on vista home premium with aaa mod ver 1.0 here's what my conf. file looks like at the moment.

Code:

[il2]
title=Il2-Sturmovik Forgotten Battles
hotkeys=HotKey game

[window]
width=1280
height=960
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
ChangeScreenRes=1
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=0
EnableResize=0
EnableClose=1
SaveAspect=1
Use3Renders=0

[GLPROVIDER]
GL=Opengl32.dll

[GLPROVIDERS]
Open GL=Opengl32.dll
DirectX=dx8wrap.dll

[NET]
speed=25000
routeChannels=0
serverChannels=31
localPort=21000
remotePort=21000
SkinDownload=1
serverName=No Name
serverDescription=
remoteHost=
localHost=
socksHost=
checkServerTimeSpeed=1
checkClientTimeSpeed=0

[MaxLag]
farMaxLagTime=10.0
nearMaxLagTime=2.0
cheaterWarningDelay=5.0
cheaterWarningNum=-1

[chat]
region=(dx=0.6925,dy=0.071666665,x=0.0,y=0.0)

[game]
Arcade=0
HighGore=0
mapPadX=0.6689453
mapPadY=-0.046875
viewSet=32
Intro=0
NoSubTitles=0
NoChatter=0
NoHudLog=0
NoLensFlare=0
iconTypes=3
eventlog=eventlog.lst
eventlogkeep=0
3dgunners=1


[HotKey game]
PrintScreen=ScreenShot
P=pause
Pause=pause

[HotKey gui]
Escape=activate

[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=2.0
deltaZ=10.0

[HookView]
MouseLeft=Len

[HookView Config]
AzimutSpeed=0.1
TangageSpeed=0.1
LenSpeed=1.0
MinLen=1.0
DefaultLen=20.0
MaxLen=3000.0
Speed=6

[HotKey builder]
MouseLeft=objectMove
MouseRight=popupmenu
Enter=freeView
Shift MouseLeft=worldZoom
Alt MouseLeft=select+
Alt MouseRight=select-
Alt Ctrl=unselect
PageDown=change+
PageUp=change-
End=change++
Home=change--
Ctrl MouseLeft=insert+
Insert=insert+
NumPad-0=insert+
F=fill
Ctrl MouseRight=delete+
NumPad.=delete+
Delete=delete+
Backspace=cursor
Tab=cursor
F10=land
F11=onLand
NumPad-=normalLand
NumPad+=toLand
NumPad-5=resetAngles
NumPad-8=resetTangage90
NumPad-7=stepAzimut-5
NumPad-4=stepAzimut-15
NumPad-1=stepAzimut-30
NumPad-9=stepAzimut5
NumPad-6=stepAzimut15
NumPad-3=stepAzimut30

[MouseXYZ]
F1=SpeedSlow
F2=SpeedNormal
F3=SpeedFast
MouseRight=XYmove
F4 MouseRight=Zmove
MouseMiddle=Amove
F5 MouseRight=Amove
F6 MouseRight=Tmove
F7 MouseRight=Kmove

[MouseXYZ Config]
RealTime=1

[HotKey Console]
Shift Tab=Activate
[Console]
HISTORY=1024
HISTORYCMD=1024
LOAD=console.cmd
SAVE=console.cmd
LOG=0
LOGTIME=0
LOGFILE=log.lst
LOGKEEP=0

[sound]
SoundUse=1
SoundEngine=1
Speakers=1
Placement=0
SoundFlags.reversestereo=0
RadioFlags.Enabled=1
RadioEngine=2
MusicVolume=8
ObjectVolume=14
MusState.takeoff=1
MusState.inflight=1
MusState.crash=1
MusFlags.play=1
MasterVolume=14
Attenuation=7
SoundMode=2
SamplingRate=2
NumChannels=3
SoundExt.occlusions=0
SoundFlags.hardware=1
SoundFlags.streams=1
SoundFlags.duplex=1
SoundExt.acoustics=0
SoundExt.volumefx=0
SoundFlags.voicemgr=0
SoundFlags.static=1
VoiceVolume=12
Channels=2
SoundExt.extrender=0
SoundFlags.bugscorrect=0
SoundSetupId=8
ActivationLevel=0.02
Preemphasis=0.85
RadioLatency=0.5
AGC=1
PTTMode=1
SoundFlags.UseRadioChatter=0
SoundFlags.AutoActivation=0
RadioFlags.PTTMode=0
RadioFlags.PlayClicks=0
ActLevel=0
MicLevel=0
SoundFlags.forceEAX1=0

[rts]
;ProcessAffinityMask=1
mouseUse=2
joyUse=1
trackIRUse=1
DisableIME=0
locale=

[rts_mouse]
SensitivityX=1.0
SensitivityY=1.0
Invert=0

[rts_joystick]
X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
FF=0
U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0

[Render_DirectX]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=2
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=0
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=0
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=0
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=0
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=2
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=7
ForceShaders1x=0
PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.0625
PolygonOffsetUnits=-1.0

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=0
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=0
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=0
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=0

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=0
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=0
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=3
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=3
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=17
Water=1
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.0625
PolygonOffsetUnits=-1.0

I apologise for posting the whole thing but I'm not sure what exactly will be relevant any help would be greatly appreciated as I haven't the foggiest

Cheers

Steel9898

[Pirate]

Hi ya, And welcome

I found this problem when I had the same card, in th il2setup.exe I think you probably have it set to 'ATI Radeon'? change it to maximum settings and that should solve the problem for you. I had a HD4850 for a short while and started this thread: viewtopic.php?t=16418&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pinkness&start=0 which may well have the answers to any other issues you might have.

Edit:

this might be of some help, a copy of the relevant parts of my conf.in from when I had the same card:

Code:

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=0
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=0
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=0
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=0

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=1
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=1

HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=3
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=3
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=17
Water=1
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

[steel9898]

Thank you Pirate! for the speedy response

I've changed the setup to maximum settings and changed my conf. file to the settings you posted but unfortunately I'm still experiencing this black glitch thank you for the link to your thread i was very hopeful as there was a lot of suggestions but these haven't worked for me either. I'm at a loss to what's causing it and it's even more annoying because my old computer ran it fine in perfect mode with an X800 :x I may try a reinstall and see if that helps but thanks all the same.

[Pirate]

oh, that sucks. might be worth trying one of the other ati settings, or backup your conf.ini and copy the details from mine in there - I think everything in the setup.exe just modifies the config file anyway. reintstalling the drivers might well help also. I'm trying to remember what else I had to do in the control centre to get it running well, disabled adaptive anti-alaising and catylist AI also - though that isn't what solved the blackness bit - but the catalyst ai definately caused some other oddities.

Hope you get it sorted out

[skyomish]

In you GAME SETUP try a lower setting to see what happens?????
Like Safe, I think that is one of them.

[Robert_Kavnik]

I do belive that ATI cards should have the "OpenGl" thing in game set to DirectX. I could be wrong though. :-?

[Jaymom]

Steel9898....if you have a ATI card as I do, did you download the Catalyst Control Center for your card? I had the same problem as you do and it was caused by having the settings too high in the CCC. When I set everything to DEFAULT the problem went away. I have Anti-aliasing set higher then default now though without any problems. I also found that the latest drivers for my ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT card was a must.
Anything below that and everything outside was black when the sim was set to Perfect. Also you must use OPENGL

Jaymom

[Sandeu]

Jaymom, I think hit it on the head here. Open up your CCC and set your CAT AI to standard or off. I've found that CAT AI not set to off or standard will generate this graphic problem. You will have to check out each setting as for some people setting CAT AI off works and for others, CAT AI set to standard works.

[steel9898]

Thanks for all the feedback guys I was really optimistic as there was a lot of good ideas there but I still can't get rid of this glitch I've tried everything suggested and it still wont go away! :x I'm down to just changing options in CCC and ingame one at time to see if it has any effect, I'll post if I find out what's causing it.

Cheers

Steel9898

***EDIT***
Typical I make this post, faff about with some settings and the bloody glitch dissappears with me none the wiser! I can only guess it was one of two things I did or both of them combined, I don't know. First, I went back into CCC ->3D-> standard tab and set the slider all the way to optimal quality. Then after this I had a brainwave to double check that il-2 was running in windows xp compatibility mode as I'm running it on vista. It was, however I had not checked the 'disable visual themes' box or the 'run this program as adminstrator' box which I've noticed helps to do when running other older games on vista. So I checked these box's, fired up the game and hey presto! I don't have IL-2 black void simulator!, I have a pretty landscape to admire!