[norm]

could it be possible to make a mode for the landing gear jam part way down, insted of falling out? also would it within the relm of reality for the extent of dammage to affect the percentige that the gear goes down?

[fpoamaster]

nice idea! Imagine cockpit only, you try to land, forget to check your panel, touch ground and have one wing or you nose fall down. SCARY!

[Spitslayer]

I'm sure you've seen gun camera footage where one of the landing gear will drop on a plane while it's being shot up. I'm assuming this happens when hydraulic pressure is lost when a hydraulic line is cut/punctured. I've often wondered why that wasn't modeled in the sim.

[Freiwillige]

You are right Spitslayer its a hit to the hydraulics. The wheels are held up by hydraulic locks and any hit to the hydraulic system would release the lock and gravity and lack of hydraulic pressure would do the rest.

[norm]

though is it possibal? i would do it if i knew how to make mods, wich i despratly wish i did.

[Gumpy]

I,m not sure but I think that would have to include editing each planes fm . that might take awhile.

[Spitslayer]

I,m not sure but I think that would have to include editing each planes fm . that might take awhile.

You are probably right.

[FlyingShark]

HI,

If I remember well, gear jamming was in the original Forgotten Battles. I even remember that in the training tracks of the Allied landing, there was even a demonstration of what to do when it occured (banking left and right to make the gear drop down). I think that you can see it in the training track of 1946 too. I'm sorry I can't check it out now because I'm at my job but you may wanna check it yourself, play the training track of Allied landing.
I don't know if it's still in the sim after all the patches though as it never occured to me that my gear jammed after all these years of IL2. But it was or still is defenetly in the training track of the original Forgotten Battles.

~S~

[spitfire13]

HI,

If I remember well, gear jamming was in the original Forgotten Battles. I even remember that in the training tracks of the Allied landing, there was even a demonstration of what to do when it occured (banking left and right to make the gear drop down). I think that you can see it in the training track of 1946 too. I'm sorry I can't check it out now because I'm at my job but you may wanna check it yourself, play the training track of Allied landing.
I don't know if it's still in the sim after all the patches though as it never occured to me that my gear jammed after all these years of IL2. But it was or still is defenetly in the training track of the original Forgotten Battles.

~S~

so maybe if you dig around you could possably find it

[US_GRANT]

I have actually had my landing gear fail to extend on occasion with 1946. It's rare though. I was able to extend it manually, however.

[Billfish]

Though I cannot speak for all aircraft the Japanese like most others probably designed their gear to utilize hydraulics for both up and down yet down in a hydraulic fail condition.

Meaning, normally as the gear raises it locks in place mechanically. However, those mechanics are normally hydraulically to "release". To normally lower the gear the hydraulics release the uplock, then rotate the gear to an overtravel condition of the toggle locking them down. The reason the gear lowers at different rates (one starting the other later) simply due to pressures the one least resistant giving way first, the second once the pressure rebuilds.

However, if the hydraulics are shot away, the pilot has a mechanical release lever. Upon pulling it the gear falls freely though may require some wing waggling to lower it fully and move it past the toggle overtravel condition to lock them...(unlike in the sim where you must manually crank them down)........What you see in films where the gear falls is simply where the uplock has been shot away the gear falling due to gravity and a partial fall meaning the hydraulics are trying to keep it up meaning they are still intact (they have enough strength to lift them yet not to hold them up).

In the sim we have 2 conditions. 1. the gear and hydraulics are fine. 2. the hydraulics are shot away not allowing an automated lowering. WHat is incorrect is normally we should try the gear, it not work, so then pull the manual release and have to waggle the wings to get them to lock........What we don't have is a uplock damage model where the gear falls part way, and a combination of uplock and hydraulics where it falls fully......Those both DM issues and with each aircraft possibly different a daunting task to get correct.

K2